EPTJK, really nice write up, thank you guys.
How to run a PvT Clinic: HerO at IEM - Page 3
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
JK, really nice write up, thank you guys. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
Anywhooo, once storm AND colossi are out, there isn't very much damage you can do as a Terran, especially when you're forced to pick between vikings or medivacs when you need to simultaneously be teching into ghosts. I've seen better PvT by Hero, and Polt wasn't impressive at all. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On March 11 2014 01:32 dUTtrOACh wrote: The deny of the scout on the twilight council was pretty nice, but it was less because of the wall and more because the reaper never went close enough to the wall to see it. Vision radius should be large enough to catch the edge of the twilight without having to go behind the nexus. Short version: Polt failed. Anywhooo, once storm AND colossi are out, there isn't very much damage you can do as a Terran, especially when you're forced to pick between vikings or medivacs when you need to simultaneously be teching into ghosts. I've seen better PvT by Hero, and Polt wasn't impressive at all. 1) It's becoming VERY common to wall off one side of the mineral line to deal with reapers. While it doesn't necessarily completely stop the reaper from scouting, it makes it a lot easier to control where the reaper goes and often times Terran players wouldn't suicide their reaper into a wall hoping that the twilight council is close enough to scout; that's dumb. 2) Polt played the same way all weekend and wrecked several Protosses, including Rain, Classic, Mana, and Stardust. Polt's strategic thinking is godlike and deserves to be respected, even if his mechanics are not necessarily mind-blowing (AKA never pulling SCVs vs. storm drops lol). Once storm and colossus are out, there are two ways to deal with it: either start building a big scary ghost/viking army of your own, much like TaeJa or Kas; or to catch the Protoss out of position and pull their economy apart, which Polt's playstyle excels at doing. The beauty of this game was that HerO made a bunch of good decisions of where and how to defend his bases that completely stonewalled Polt's more positional playstyle. | ||
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vidium
Romania222 Posts
I really liked the comparison between oracle and the warp prism drop, and now its kinda funny when i see casters shout so much when an oracle gets 3-5 kills, and storm drop can kill all you workers at one base and you dont even have time to react. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On March 11 2014 03:23 SC2John wrote: 1) It's becoming VERY common to wall off one side of the mineral line to deal with reapers. While it doesn't necessarily completely stop the reaper from scouting, it makes it a lot easier to control where the reaper goes and often times Terran players wouldn't suicide their reaper into a wall hoping that the twilight council is close enough to scout; that's dumb. 2) Polt played the same way all weekend and wrecked several Protosses, including Rain, Classic, Mana, and Stardust. Polt's strategic thinking is godlike and deserves to be respected, even if his mechanics are not necessarily mind-blowing (AKA never pulling SCVs vs. storm drops lol). Once storm and colossus are out, there are two ways to deal with it: either start building a big scary ghost/viking army of your own, much like TaeJa or Kas; or to catch the Protoss out of position and pull their economy apart, which Polt's playstyle excels at doing. The beauty of this game was that HerO made a bunch of good decisions of where and how to defend his bases that completely stonewalled Polt's more positional playstyle. Right on. I didn't see any of Polt's other matches. I'll have to do some catching up. EDIT: And about storm drops... they're just one of the beautiful things that we only hope the observer catches on time. | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
And I think now with mines getting the buff, when HerO decides to get the templar archive, I think you can get a Robo first for an obs, and just delay your Templar Archives slightly. Although I'm not sure how it works out yet. And then maybe just getting 1 templar as soon as Archives finish while getting storm instead of 2 until you have enough gas. Also, the vision radius on the MSC isn't stupidly big but is still enough to where you can get a pretty decent scout off if you control it correctly that scouting a quick mine build shouldn't be too hard to get a robo in time or some kind of detection, etc. But, all the things about army positioning and base selection are really interesting. And something I'm looking for more when watching pro-matches. I wish casters picked up on these things more and could highlight these decisions better in-game, which is something Day9 is really good at and doesn't get enough credit for as a caster imo (people seem to dislike day9's casting and it's baffling to me). Loved the article as my PvT has been suffering as of late. The new variations on the Terran side with mines has surely made it much more interesting to watch, and much more difficult to play haha. Looking forward to the next one! | ||
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Jealous
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5p4z3n3k0
Netherlands19 Posts
Is it purely because you only have Protoss writing staff ? Does the "Editor"decide what stories/guides will be posted ? I would realy like to know !! Pls, thanks in advance ! Edit: on a side note, the guide itself looks good, needed to be said User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On March 11 2014 23:08 5p4z3n3k0 wrote: I might get banned but this isn't a whine, Just want to know why there are so much Protoss guides on TL? Why are the other races so bad represented ? Is it purely because you only have Protoss writing staff ? Does the "Editor"decide what stories/guides will be posted ? I would realy like to know !! Pls, thanks in advance ! Edit: on a side note, the guide itself looks good, needed to be said This is a question we've been getting a lot. Our editing staff is mostly Protoss...we have like one or two Terran and Zerg writers and they aren't very active, so we don't really get a lot of other guides released. However, we're working on releasing more guides for other races. Personally, I've made it a goal to start releasing a lot more Zerg guides, since we've had very little Zerg guides released on TL aside from blade5555's personal guides. We're always looking for high-level players willing to write though! Seriously, if any Terran or Zerg players are interested in writing for TL, just give us a pm and let us know! | ||
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