[G] The Mass Oracle/Chargelot PvT - Page 3

Tharkun

France43 Posts

February 20 2014 11:28 GMT

#41

On February 20 2014 05:11 blkdynamite wrote:
I'm also interested in seeing if this can become a viable PvZ strategy since blizzard is experimenting with various hydra buffs. If fast hydras become the meta for shutting down phoenix openings this would be a fun way to deal with it

I'm pretty sure it's not going to work in PvZ simply because it's so easy for zerg to go mutalisk to counter this.
When zerg scout what's going on, and they always do eventually, they can easily hard counter the build.

SC2Toastie

Netherlands5725 Posts

February 20 2014 12:21 GMT

#42

On February 20 2014 20:28 Tharkun wrote:

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You've got Stargates ready and some sick scouting information/potential yourself, as well as the ability to deny those gas bases Zerg relies on?

Teoita

Italy12247 Posts

February 21 2014 11:22 GMT

#43

Opening void ray and going into charge is vulnerable enough to hydra/queen busts on lots of maps; opening oracle and doing the same thing with mass oracle is pretty much suicide.

weikor

Austria580 Posts

February 27 2014 04:55 GMT

#44

i'm pretty sure oracles would do better vs hydra queen busts. every oracle over a voidray is an additional zealot as well as significant dps gain. sure it's a lot more fragile but then again theoretically stimmed marines kill oracles .

vs terran i feel this is extremely strong. the 4 oracle usually pay for themselves, remember the need for army splitting as well as turrets and the damage they do.
yes the correct response is to turtle on 2 base vs an all~in. but what if he takes a third and holds your push timing (before criticAl unit count with oracle zealot , later with revelations and storm）
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wraithcube

United States2 Posts

March 14 2014 16:18 GMT

#45

Oh wow, just found this. Glad somebody wrote it up as I've been running a variation on this since the beta as well and it's been super strong (even better since the oracle speed buff since marines can't kite them). First game on here:
http://www.twitch.tv/wraithcube/c/2196357

I was going with less zealots and hitting off only 5 gates with a MSC (timewarp works amazingly with this), but rushing +2 armor before the attack and including 2-3 sentries for guardian shield+ff. The smaller unit count makes harder to defend from drops, the stronger upgrades makes up for it.

Because you are already going for a 3rd base and templar behind this, if you do significant damage with the oracles a lot of times you can skip storm and just add on archons for a 2-base chargelot/archon/oracle all-in.

If the terran seems drop heavy it's also super easy to add on 3-4 phoenixes after the push timing to defend.

As far as PvZ goes it's kinda meh. It can work, but oracles do hardly anything to roaches and while they do some damage to hydras a hydra/ling or hydra/roach mix causes the hydras to target oracles as a first priority and then your zealots get kited back. If you can get good forcefields or a zealot flank you'll do ok though. Just the tech transition is a lot slower than you'd want and it's more of a last resort type of defense or at least that's been my experience with it.

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