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[D] Zerg Creep Spread Trick

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hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 03:05:54
May 11 2013 00:42 GMT
#1
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Preface: When it comes to fast creep spread, zerg players should generally spawn new creep tumours at the very edge of the creep. This needs a lot of mouse accuracy to do quickly, and is more difficult when spreading multiple creep tumours quickly.

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Setup
1. Go to Menu -> Options -> Hotkeys -> Global -> Unit Management -> Choose Ability or A.I. Target. Set the Alternate hotkey to C (or if you changed your creep tumour's spawn new creep tumour ability, set it to the same hotkey as that)

2. Go to your OS control panel equivalent and look for keyboard settings. Reduce key repeat delay to the minimum setting and increase key repeat speed to the maximum setting.

Technique
Double-click your creep tumours, then hold C while you wave your mouse where you want the creep tumours to go.

The waving of the mouse has several techniques, depending on the position of your current creep tumours and which direction(s) you want to expand in.

1. One creep tumour: wave from outside the creep to inside the creep boundary in the direction you want to spread. Result is furthest creep tumour in correct direction.

2. Multiple creep tumours and want to spread out: wave from outside the creep in a zigzag inwards to the creep. Result is furthest creep tumours in spread out directions.

3. Multiple creep tumours with some further back and some further forward, but you want them all to go in a certain direction: same as one tumour, wave from outside the creep to inside the creep boundary until all tumours are placed.

4. Multiple creep tumours and can't advance further: wave inside the creep to thicken the tumours.
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replay in real game: (gold ZvT: i'm terrible but the easier creep spread helps!)
http://drop.sc/333434

Khaldor made a video tutorial that mentions this:




// credit to ManiacTheZealot for suggestion of using the same key for spawn creep tumour and Choose Ability or A.I. Target, also for noticing that there is no need to hold shift when placing tumours.
// thanks to Existor for banner!

Bonus: Set your infestor spawn infested terran ability Alternate hotkey to C as well for easy infested terran spam.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2776 Posts
May 11 2013 01:01 GMT
#2
Wow, this sounds sick. As I understand it spacebar takes the place of left click? Could speed things up a lot.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
May 11 2013 01:02 GMT
#3
Thread worthy ???
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 11 2013 01:07 GMT
#4
im too dumb to understand this
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
May 11 2013 01:15 GMT
#5
Wow, this sounds sick. As I understand it spacebar takes the place of left click? Could speed things up a lot.


Yes the spacebar takes the place of left-click, just like the scroll-wheel binding to left click trick for infested terrans.

Thread worthy ???


Sorry I'm new here, wasn't sure where to post it!

im too dumb to understand this


Selecting tumours and then shift+c lets you click multiple times to lay multiple tumours without pressing c each time.
Holding spacebar is a spamming of the skill target selection(normally left click).
In the basic form, you wave from farther away, where the tumour can't reach, towards the tumour, so that the tumour makes a new tumour at the furthest possible spot.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom19990 Posts
May 11 2013 01:32 GMT
#6
This could be really awesome, trying out
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ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 02:02:49
May 11 2013 01:55 GMT
#7
Ok so building off this idea. Why not make C your key instead of spacebar. That way you press C for both creep tumor and left click. Shift C and hold it to spam creep. Much simpler. TO place creep you can do the same thing select queen shift C hold it lays a bunch of creep.

I tried it out and it works amazingly. I didn't find any unintended conflicts yet. But let me know if you guys do.

It's really to bad that you can't spread creep using the minimap. Hotkeying your tumors and spreading it on the minimap would be op.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2776 Posts
May 11 2013 02:02 GMT
#8
On May 11 2013 10:55 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
Ok so building off this idea. Why not make C your key instead of spacebar. That way you press C for both creep tumor and left click. Shift C and hold it to spam creep. Much simpler. TO place creep you can do the same thing select queen shift C hold it lays a bunch of creep.


I think that would conflict, a bit...thinking about it you want to have your creep ready and then start spreading tumors from the edge of range in - a player will often press the key before he presses a key to spread a tumor so this first method doesn't fuck with muscle memory as much.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 02:06:48
May 11 2013 02:05 GMT
#9
On May 11 2013 10:55 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
Ok so building off this idea. Why not make C your key instead of spacebar. That way you press C for both creep tumor and left click. Shift C and hold it to spam creep. Much simpler. TO place creep you can do the same thing select queen shift C hold it lays a bunch of creep.

I tried it out and it works amazingly. I didn't find any unintended conflicts yet. But let me know if you guys do.

It's really to bad that you can't spread creep using the minimap. Hotkeying your tumors and spreading it on the minimap would be op.


you sir, are a genius. your suggestion works like a charm.

i use the d key btw.(home row ftw)
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 02:08:32
May 11 2013 02:05 GMT
#10
On May 11 2013 11:02 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 10:55 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
Ok so building off this idea. Why not make C your key instead of spacebar. That way you press C for both creep tumor and left click. Shift C and hold it to spam creep. Much simpler. TO place creep you can do the same thing select queen shift C hold it lays a bunch of creep.


I think that would conflict, a bit...thinking about it you want to have your creep ready and then start spreading tumors from the edge of range in - a player will often press the key before he presses a key to spread a tumor so this first method doesn't fuck with muscle memory as much.


I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I just pressed shift C and waved my mouse it seemed to work. I checked for binding conflicts and seems all good.
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 02:09:24
May 11 2013 02:06 GMT
#11
On May 11 2013 11:05 hearters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 10:55 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
Ok so building off this idea. Why not make C your key instead of spacebar. That way you press C for both creep tumor and left click. Shift C and hold it to spam creep. Much simpler. TO place creep you can do the same thing select queen shift C hold it lays a bunch of creep.

I tried it out and it works amazingly. I didn't find any unintended conflicts yet. But let me know if you guys do.

It's really to bad that you can't spread creep using the minimap. Hotkeying your tumors and spreading it on the minimap would be op.


you sir, are a genius. your suggestion works like a charm.


Awesome!

Edit: Actually you don't even have to hold shift now that I think about it. Just hit C and hold it for spreading. For queens you can still hold shift to place multiple tumors.
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
May 11 2013 02:17 GMT
#12
On May 11 2013 11:06 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 11:05 hearters wrote:
On May 11 2013 10:55 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
Ok so building off this idea. Why not make C your key instead of spacebar. That way you press C for both creep tumor and left click. Shift C and hold it to spam creep. Much simpler. TO place creep you can do the same thing select queen shift C hold it lays a bunch of creep.

I tried it out and it works amazingly. I didn't find any unintended conflicts yet. But let me know if you guys do.

It's really to bad that you can't spread creep using the minimap. Hotkeying your tumors and spreading it on the minimap would be op.


you sir, are a genius. your suggestion works like a charm.


Awesome!

Edit: Actually you don't even have to hold shift now that I think about it. Just hit C and hold it for spreading. For queens you can still hold shift to place multiple tumors.


yup just tested it, no need to hold shift. i think this has become quite a difference from normal creep spreading.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
May 11 2013 02:17 GMT
#13
Can we see a youtube video comparison? :D
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
May 11 2013 02:19 GMT
#14
I actually didn't see "alternate skill target selection" under unit management. Mine reads as "Choose Ability or A.I. Target"
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
May 11 2013 02:23 GMT
#15
On May 11 2013 11:19 ManiacTheZealot wrote:
I actually didn't see "alternate skill target selection" under unit management. Mine reads as "Choose Ability or A.I. Target"


yup that's the one. i remembered wrongly.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 02:30:32
May 11 2013 02:25 GMT
#16
On May 11 2013 11:17 dicedicerevolution wrote:
Can we see a youtube video comparison? :D


i run a crappy laptop barely able to handle the game on lowest settings. need someone else to do this

btw: i'm gonna keybind my infested terrans to the same hotkey too!
edit: actually it should be used as an alternate keybind, not the main keybind. so you can choose whether to use C as a quick way to mass spawn infested terrans, or T(default) to control the number of infested terrans made.
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2518 Posts
May 11 2013 02:31 GMT
#17
can someone make a youtube tutorial on this lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 02:44:40
May 11 2013 02:43 GMT
#18
On May 11 2013 11:25 hearters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 11:17 dicedicerevolution wrote:
Can we see a youtube video comparison? :D


i run a crappy laptop barely able to handle the game on lowest settings. need someone else to do this

btw: i'm gonna keybind my infested terrans to the same hotkey too!
edit: actually it should be used as an alternate keybind, not the main keybind. so you can choose whether to use C as a quick way to mass spawn infested terrans, or T(default) to control the number of infested terrans made.


So I was trying to figure out why infested terran wouldn't bind for me then I noticed I was editing the "while burrowed" section for the infestor. Works like a charm now though. Fear my infested terran spam!!!
hearters
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore224 Posts
May 11 2013 03:02 GMT
#19
Terran's are going to start combobinding snipe and choose target too. And seeker missiles for mass raven?
Research: 1. Creep Spread Trick 2. Patrol Splitting Zerglings 3. Multiple Queen Production 4. Organised Creep Spread 5. Select Larvae/Morph Unit Rapidfire
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 03:38:40
May 11 2013 03:37 GMT
#20
Ok I made short video. It's more of a demonstration than a tutorial but I show the menu and the binds at the end. What you're seeing is me holding down C (my creep spread button) and waving my mouse across the screen.

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