EPT[D] Zerg Creep Spread Trick - Page 4
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LardMaster
United Kingdom123 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
On May 12 2013 06:18 LardMaster wrote: Just something I quickly tried, this can be used for mules too, and I guess then also supply drops and scan, but I think mule is the only one worth bothering with. Although you'd have to change to hotkey of EMP I think, as it also used E. You can use this with EMP too. Just don't hold E. Aim the cursor, tap E once, and bam. I'm looking forward to using this on HTs in TvP - but with snipe. | ||
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LardMaster
United Kingdom123 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2065 Posts
Also, how is this used for warpgates? Wouldn't you need to bind a separate hotkey for each unit? Can you even do that? | ||
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Mahtasooma
Germany475 Posts
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Synk
United States297 Posts
It does not works with injection, because after each injection it breaks "rapidfire" key so you need to click it again to continue rapid-clicking. So it's better to stay with your current injection method and use this trick only for tumors If you use a screen save hotkey this isn't the case. I can just hold down my injection key now and hit f1 f2 f3 f4 as fast as I want and it insta injects all 4 hatches. It's pretty good. Thanks for the info on adding another binding too, best of both worlds. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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KuKKi
Germany73 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:45 MarlieChurphy wrote: What if you play random? And you have lots of confliction with a bound hotkey for multiple uses of spamming a spell or whatever? Also, how is this used for warpgates? Wouldn't you need to bind a separate hotkey for each unit? Can you even do that? The only conflict can occur if u have 2 commands bound to the same hotkey on a command card, e.g. Hallucination and Force Field on "F". I did bind everything to C.(Abducts, Infested Terrans, Snipe, Force Fields) to have a good use of it, those all work fine. for warpgates its pretty simple. You have 2 ways of doing a mass warp in. 1: Binding the unit you want to warp in on the same hotkey as the 'spam' button. e.g. Zealot rebind on C, spam key on C Hold C to warp in mass zealots 2: Just use shift while you warpin with the 'spam' key e.g. Push "Z" for Zealot, hold down shift, press the 'spam' key. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Just add more alternate hotkeys for that command which are similar to zealot/sentry/stalker hotkeys and you will be able to rapid-warp each unit. | ||
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hearters
Singapore224 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:49 Synk wrote: If you use a screen save hotkey this isn't the case. I can just hold down my injection key now and hit f1 f2 f3 f4 as fast as I want and it insta injects all 4 hatches. It's pretty good. Thanks for the info on adding another binding too, best of both worlds. i tried to do this too for inject, but somehow i can't get it to work. for me, i have to press inject hotkey each time i press a different screen location. not sure why. you have any idea? | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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hearters
Singapore224 Posts
There are 2 parts to this technique: 1. Binding "C" to both spawn creep tumour and Choose Ability Target This could conceivably be patched, obviously depending on whether Blizzard wants to, in the argument that it's (kinda) no longer a 1-1 macro. 2. Binding a key to the Choose Ability Target This certainly will not be patched. So you could still use the core of this technique no matter what. If 1 was patched, you'd just hit "C" for spawn creep tumour and hold another key(eg. spacebar) to wave the creep tumours. Hope this made it more clear. | ||
Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
I don't understand how you can be certain or even probabilistically sure they won't patch the single button feature. What evidence permits you to make that claim? Am I missing something? | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
On May 12 2013 13:34 Kaitlin wrote: I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned blink stalker micro in this thread. The strength of the bind is that it repeats when pressed. If you binded it to B for blink you would still need to press B twice to activate it and blink. And since all your stalkers will then blink the repeat function doesn't benefit you. However if your blinks are on staggered cooldowns and you're trying to GTFO you could hold it and they would blink as their cooldowns came up. So ya it definitely as a use there as well. I'm not sure why people are worried about this getting nerfed. It works good, it's part of the game, use it if you want to. Don't be the like the guy who didn't use infestors in WoL because he thought they'd get nerfed into oblivion. | ||
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chris2423
31 Posts
if you were to set up a macro key to to perform 4v left click, basecamera and held it down, you would inject all your hatcheries. that is a macro that performs 4 actions. see the similarities? one is a 2 button macro, one is a 4 button macro, one uses your keyboard bindings, one uses blizzard's ingame hotkey support, but they both violate 1 button = 1 action. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On May 12 2013 13:55 ManiacTheZealot wrote: The strength of the bind is that it repeats when pressed. If you binded it to B for blink you would still need to press B twice to activate it and blink. And since all your stalkers will then blink the repeat function doesn't benefit you. However if your blinks are on staggered cooldowns and you're trying to GTFO you could hold it and they would blink as their cooldowns came up. So ya it definitely as a use there as well. Wasn't one of the points of this thread, a keybind bypassing the extra mouse click usually required to target the spell ? I'm assuming selecting a stalker to blink and casting the blink spell with mouse at desired location is faster / easier than adding a mouse click to that sequence. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On May 12 2013 14:02 chris2423 wrote: you are pressing 1 button to perform multiple actions. you are setting up a macro key to perform C, left click. when you hold it down, it spreads all your creep tumors. for those of you who want to tell me this is not a macro, lets look at something we will all agree is a macro. if you were to set up a macro key to to perform 4v left click, basecamera and held it down, you would inject all your hatcheries. that is a macro that performs 4 actions. see the similarities? one is a 2 button macro, one is a 4 button macro, one uses your keyboard bindings, one uses blizzard's ingame hotkey support, but they both violate 1 button = 1 action. You can't program macros using Blizzard's ingame hotkey customization interface. That is sufficient reason to say this is not a macro... | ||
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
On May 12 2013 14:05 Kaitlin wrote: Wasn't one of the points of this thread, a keybind bypassing the extra mouse click usually required to target the spell ? I'm assuming selecting a stalker to blink and casting the blink spell with mouse at desired location is faster / easier than adding a mouse click to that sequence. There's a delay between selecting the ability and the activation if you hold it down. So it's not actually faster until it's doing repeated clicks. Go test it and you'll see what I mean. I suppose it could be faster if you were very slow with your mouse click. I played around with my repeat delay some. For blink stalkers definitely go with lowest repeat delay but for creep spread I think it's better to have some delay in case you want to be more precise with your placement. | ||
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hearters
Singapore224 Posts
On May 12 2013 12:50 Ninjury_J wrote: Hey Heaters, I don't understand how you can be certain or even probabilistically sure they won't patch the single button feature. What evidence permits you to make that claim? Am I missing something? For the simple fact that it appears in the hotkey menu in the first place and they allow you to bind a key to it. I don't think that suddenly after 3 years of the game being out, they are going to say, "Nope you can't bind a key to that command, we just wanted to give you the option to bind it to left mouse button, right mouse button or middle mouse button, that's all." The core idea is that you are holding down the key to "click" the key really quickly. This happens when players hold down z to make zerglings. Should we ban that too and force them to press one z for each pair of zerglings? | ||
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