EPTOn July 24 2013 18:52 Snowbear wrote:
No. 15 rax is standard.
No. 15 rax is standard.
Oh shit, I just learned I did it all wrong (didn't cut scv's) xD Sorry
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Persh
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Oh shit, I just learned I did it all wrong (didn't cut scv's) xD Sorry | ||
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mizU
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Whatson
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Really depends on what you have, but if you don't see an expo or anything in his main with your 6 minute scan get worried | ||
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teuthida
United States104 Posts
On July 24 2013 13:31 KingofGods wrote: In TvZ a lot of pros hotkey their widow mines separately from their bio force. I feel like that's kind of a waste because you never want to burrow your widow mines clump together all at the same time (because a couple banes will destroy them all). What I do in TvZ is just hotkey everything together, minus my viking and a separate drop or two and just micro little clumps individually with boxing rather than using my hotkey. I can think of a few situations where having them on a hotkey are useful: 1. Emergency unburrow, especially if you are going to take a lot of friendly fire damage. 2. Quickly burrowing them if it looks like they may be lost anyway, so at least they hopefully get some shots off. 3. When you have the speed burrow upgrade, you can run them into the enemy army and burrow quickly. | ||
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Hossinaut
United States453 Posts
Is it better to get reactors or to build another rax? I feel like just making another rax would be good for late game scenarios when you can then drop another couple tech labs and build more marauders (say in a TvZ where the Z has reached ultralisks), instead of having to swap reactors for tech labs or something. Sorry for the stupid question, it's just been nagging at me for a while. Thanks | ||
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Pirfiktshon
United States1072 Posts
Generally you follow builds though and you naturally want to put 3 Reactors per 2 Techlabs vses Protoss and with TvZ in the first set up you want to get 1-2 techlabs so you can research ( Again HEAVILY dependant upon build) Stim and CS then the rest you want as Reactors to keep up with production... then as you grab a 3rd and 4th you want to add on 2-4 more rax with techlab if you see ultra coming to make enough maruarders...... These are just pretty general rules but when it comes to this question it is VERY situational ...... | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:01 Pirfiktshon wrote: There is a ratio for each matchup and playstyle that goes according to how much income you have and what stage of the game you are in as well as whether or not you are facing a High Pressure build LOL For instance if you are playing against Oracles you Do not want to be putting reactors on because you need taht time to pump out marines otherwise you will die by teh time you can pump out 2 marines...... Generally you follow builds though and you naturally want to put 3 Reactors per 2 Techlabs vses Protoss and with TvZ in the first set up you want to get 1-2 techlabs so you can research ( Again HEAVILY dependant upon build) Stim and CS then the rest you want as Reactors to keep up with production... then as you grab a 3rd and 4th you want to add on 2-4 more rax with techlab if you see ultra coming to make enough maruarders...... These are just pretty general rules but when it comes to this question it is VERY situational ...... actually you only want 3 reactors all game tvp, everything else tech lab. | ||
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Pirfiktshon
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KingofGods
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Pirfiktshon
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On July 25 2013 03:06 KingofGods wrote: The primary reason to use reactors instead of more raxes is physical space. There just isn't enough room in the main and natural on these maps. LOL! Have you ever done the math? Check the timings of how long it takes to build 8 marines out of 1 rax then out of a rax that builds a reactor right away...... you will be shocked hahahaha Then if you have 2 rax think about putting a reactor on both you now have doubled the effect...... its definitely about production and less about space...... | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On July 24 2013 21:03 Whatson wrote: There's a winning with ease video on defending against regular proxy thor Really depends on what you have, but if you don't see an expo or anything in his main with your 6 minute scan get worried when I scanned I assume he had just put his fact and starport in the corner of his base, which isn't uncommon | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:04 KawaiiRice wrote: actually you only want 3 reactors all game tvp, everything else tech lab. Eh, pros say different things. Some, like Major, say you don't even want a single marine in your army late game. While others say you only want like 3 maradaurs, and the rest pure marine/ghost. | ||
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govie
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On July 25 2013 04:12 Rhaegal wrote: Eh, pros say different things. Some, like Major, say you don't even want a single marine in your army late game. While others say you only want like 3 maradaurs, and the rest pure marine/ghost. If u read the OP, it states armycomp against an army with storm and lategametoss. Discussion closed  | ||
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KawaiiRice
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On July 25 2013 04:12 Rhaegal wrote: Eh, pros say different things. Some, like Major, say you don't even want a single marine in your army late game. While others say you only want like 3 maradaurs, and the rest pure marine/ghost. the later the game gets you phase out marines and replace them with marauder ghost. nobody makes 0 marines in midgame so obviously you still need reactors. i said nothing about late game. also marine ghost is suicidal, which pro has said (and does) this? | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
On July 25 2013 04:23 KawaiiRice wrote: the later the game gets you phase out marines and replace them with marauder ghost. nobody makes 0 marines in midgame so obviously you still need reactors. i said nothing about late game. also marine ghost is suicidal, which pro has said (and does) this? Beastyqt is the one that said it, during a show I believe. Found it: Also, here in this game Flash goes above the 3 reactors that you said. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On July 25 2013 04:36 Rhaegal wrote: Beastyqt is the one that said it, during a show I believe. Also, here in this game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3aBUvhs1-o Flash goes above the 3 reactors that you said. that just looks like flash is making marines off tech lab barracks...? hes not making 5 marauders / ghosts when he is making 8 marines. marines literally melt to storm and don't complement ghosts as well as marauders do, because ghosts deal bonus to light (zealots) and marauders deal w/ stalker/colo. since they have more hp the ground units can be closer to the fight without kiting away -> letting stalker archon destroy all the vikings. imo marine ghost is like playing on a razer's edge.. the only way I would like that is if you were playing vs ht zeal archon and traded well enough in midgame so that P didn't have the money to go into 2 robo colo. going for marine ghost over marauder ghost doesn't make sense to me. I looked up this vod of beasty vs elfi: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/games/169034_Beastyqt_vs_elfi/vod it looks like he gets a really low marauder count and delays adding them in which gives him the money to get a higher ghost count than normal in game 2. That seems slightly interesting? But his comp still had a good amount of marauders. edit: lol watched longer after he was dead and hes literally making only marine ghost. wow. i guess he has the micro of a god if he likes playing like this o.o | ||
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Rhaegal
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On July 25 2013 05:25 zhurai wrote: getting 4+ reactors in TvP is like asking to die to aoe @@ But, isn't it optimal if your micro is good? Marines are much better than maradaurs dps and supply efficiency wise. | ||
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