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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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EdgeSC
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LF[Media]
United States58 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
Description: The best way to fight mech and using swarmhosts as well. Next video will feature zvp again with a better swarmhost build and beating a maxed voidray/colossi with some templar army! Stay tuned  | ||
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Tuczniak
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Ramiz1989
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I would like to see some your casts of Swarm Hosts vs. Bio. I watched all of the replays, but still it is better when you are explaining things, and Swarm Hosts vs. Bio usually is a lot action-packed! | ||
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
Also can't wait for ZvP vs skytoss | ||
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Intricate
Canada127 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 09 2013 11:39 koOma wrote: Loving these tutorials! I know u ran into it in the ZvT but I'd like to see more defending vs Hellbat drops / mine shenanigans Also can't wait for ZvP vs skytossHeh I will try! Next video is up. Now this is my third this week and from now on it should be going back to once per week is my goal. This one is a very good one I think a lot of zergs will enjoy especially verse max voidray/colossi compositions. Description: This shows a stargate opening by protoss and how I go hydras first then swarmhost and then end up containing him to 3 base, he gets a 200/200 voidray/colossi army that I am able to kill. I go through my thought process and all that usual stuff. | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On February 09 2013 04:50 blade55555 wrote: Alright guys thanks for the positive feedback! Here is another video but this will be a zerg vs terran one on how to beat Mech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEbgLKb9q9A&feature=youtu.be Description: The best way to fight mech and using swarmhosts as well. Next video will feature zvp again with a better swarmhost build and beating a maxed voidray/colossi with some templar army! Stay tuned Thanks for those videos Now in this game in 1st big fight he sieged under your BC and 11 of his tanks were not fighting and still you lost the fight with so many of his units remaining. So i have a feeling, had he split his tanks, he would have even more units remaining hence you probably could have lost the game right there? | ||
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
Great work! We need more constructive videos like these to counter the prevailing defeatist attitude of "If I can't beat it, it's f**king bullshit." *posts on TL to nerf X* Could you do one where you fend off medivac drop of hellbats? | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 10 2013 18:10 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: Hi Blade, Great work! We need more constructive videos like these to counter the prevailing defeatist attitude of "If I can't beat it, it's f**king bullshit." *posts on TL to nerf X* Could you do one where you fend off medivac drop of hellbats? Hehe I just want to state I do say that stuff to a bit haha  , I do think voids are a little to strong still, but I also think this might be a way to counter the colossi/templar/void army. I need to play more verse it with this composition to say for sure ^^.I will try to do one with a medivac drop with hellbats, the mech video show cases it and I talk a little bit about how to defend against them the best I can think of anyway. | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 12 2013 03:00 Lobotomist wrote: I was going to ask about adding infestors against that many void rays, but then you mentioned it in the video. seems like a couple fungals would be great against stacked up voids. seems like the little bit of damage you were able to cause with the swarm hosts was instrumental in keeping the toss army manageable. Yes I feel sometime in the future swarmhosts will be standard zvp just because I dont' think roach/hydra is good. Everyone has kinda figured out how to counter vipers (templar for toss, vikings/ravens for terran) so the viper isn't "op" anymore so roach/hydra into fast viper isn't good anymore like it used to be. Now that tosses are starting to remember how to beat roach/hydra/corruptor (since zergs are kinda doing that now then adding in vipers) or roach/hydra/viper I am positive that will die just like it did in wol and swarmhosts will rise to take the place of roach/hydra. | ||
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doggy
Germany306 Posts
However i dont feel like vipers are the way to go going for roach hydra since they get feedbacked too easily and if your 2-2 roach hydra timing fails, protoss will have the time to add in templars before the next battle occures. i dont think that situation would appear with a SH siege tho. That being said, vipers are also a lot cheaper and versatile than a huge flock of curropters, which allows you to add more hydra/SH/infestors btw, really nice zvp vid :-P | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 13 2013 19:06 doggy wrote: Quick question about swarmhost synergy in zvp. I also like to push toss on 3 bases with SH and most times hydra/curropter support with a few (~2) infestors to hold them in place if needbe. i just was wondering if vipers instead of curropter build up a better synergy (i do think so tbh even tho i havent tried it yet). Toss gets pushed before he can afford a good amount of splash and/or air with templars for feedback, and vipers should theoretically allow you to snipe out either colossi or if you face skytoss single airunits before they reach their scary critical mass. However i dont feel like vipers are the way to go going for roach hydra since they get feedbacked too easily and if your 2-2 roach hydra timing fails, protoss will have the time to add in templars before the next battle occures. i dont think that situation would appear with a SH siege tho. That being said, vipers are also a lot cheaper and versatile than a huge flock of curropters, which allows you to add more hydra/SH/infestors btw, really nice zvp vid :-P I think having vipers in addition to corruptors/hydra/swarmhost is going to be powerful. I have been wanting to do it but keep forgetting about it. Also guys next video is up! Zerg Verse Terran - Muta into swarmhost and transitioning into late game Description: This describes what I do and why I do it as usual with mutalisks, Why I go them how to use them and then adding in swarmhosts and then transitioning into the late game. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
Anyway, very solid game, you would have a bit more of a problems if Terran went with Bio + Tanks or Bio + Mines instead of Bio + Hellbats, or if he did Hellbat drops as he should, but great game nonetheless! I loved the Idea of Swarm Hosts back when they introduced the unit for the first time. Then, I was a bit disappointed when people were trying a lot of stuff with them, and managed to come up only with all-in kind of attacks with them, where you make between 20 and 30 of them and attack. But when I watch your replays and videos, and TLO's VODs, I like them more and more! Such an awesome unit! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 15 2013 03:21 Ramiz1989 wrote: Great game there Blade! Yeah, that were my thoughts at first, "why not go for Mutas and then switch to Swarm Hosts?", but I guess they come a lot later than with the Infestor build since you are spending a lot more gas on Mutas and upgrades than on ~6 Infestors. Anyway, very solid game, you would have a bit more of a problems if Terran went with Bio + Tanks or Bio + Mines instead of Bio + Hellbats, or if he did Hellbat drops as he should, but great game nonetheless! I loved the Idea of Swarm Hosts back when they introduced the unit for the first time. Then, I was a bit disappointed when people were trying a lot of stuff with them, and managed to come up only with all-in kind of attacks with them, where you make between 20 and 30 of them and attack. But when I watch your replays and videos, and TLO's VODs, I like them more and more! Such an awesome unit! Hm you would actually be surprised. Swarmhosts actually are very good verse bio + mines (locusts soak mine shots which is nice) and they are also good verse bio + tanks. They are good because again they will be tanking tank shots while you run in with ling/bane and what not. This is why I am doing a 2-3 parts of swarmhost zvt bio because I know some people might think it struggles verse compositions like those, but it doesn't believe it or not :D | ||
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SeinGalton
South Africa387 Posts
Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for these tutorials. I've just received a HoTS key, and being on the look out for build orders and strats I stumbled upon these to find they're exactly the type of things I'd like to do. Your ZvP is real sexy, I love the transition into mass ground instead of Broodlord and your vsT feels like a real throwback to BW days. Thank you sir, keep making them and I'll keep watching them. | ||
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