EPTOn January 17 2013 03:27 Natalya wrote:
Sigh, are you kidding? this debate AGAIN? What you are basically saying is: "On every other map you can spare the 100 minerals early game that a drone scout cost you, because your overlord can reach their natural in time to see if they expoed, but why dont you accept losing 100 minerals and drone scout?" If you want to be behind 100 minerals compared to an standard game, up to you. I'll veto the map. So what you are saying is like : by not vetoing this map you accept to lose the advantage of not having to drone scout, but this advantage is only a little one so why not accept to lose it? I answer there is no little advantage in starcraft. You need every little thing you can get.
And since I dont get anything at all against that thing i lose, there is no point in taking the deal.
Sigh, are you kidding? this debate AGAIN? What you are basically saying is: "On every other map you can spare the 100 minerals early game that a drone scout cost you, because your overlord can reach their natural in time to see if they expoed, but why dont you accept losing 100 minerals and drone scout?" If you want to be behind 100 minerals compared to an standard game, up to you. I'll veto the map. So what you are saying is like : by not vetoing this map you accept to lose the advantage of not having to drone scout, but this advantage is only a little one so why not accept to lose it? I answer there is no little advantage in starcraft. You need every little thing you can get.
And since I dont get anything at all against that thing i lose, there is no point in taking the deal.
you are correct that you are 100 minerals behind on newkirk
however, i strongly disagree that its a bad map for zerg
you are 100 minerals behind early as zerg on this map, but the benefit of the map being so large makes it extremely zerg friendly. trust me many tosses and terrans HATE facing a good zerk on newkirk, and trust me its a extremely zerg friendly map due to its size allowed to easy massive surrounds. the attackpaths on the map have zero useful chokepoints (something toss/terran needs to fight zerg well)
if you dont like newkirk thats fine, just letting you know however that the map would have insane 80%+ winrates for zerg in gsl. but it likely will never reach GSL (i hope)
