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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 13 2013 02:47 GMT
#741
One other thing that's been bothering me-- should silver even be a benchmark goal? Ideally these should be long term goals--- not just the next level in the ladder. There's no way for silver to be two jumps up. [And honestly, it's hard to imagine someone who doesn't at least want to achieve gold with this]
Don't Panic
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 13 2013 15:39 GMT
#742
@MotherFox

Some people only have time for a game or two per week, but are still looking to improve. I don't see why we shouldn't keep that option available.

On the other hand, silver is so much easier to get into than it used to be. Maybe we will get rid of it for 6.0.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
smokingkipper
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom7 Posts
April 14 2013 00:54 GMT
#743
Hi Hi,

I have just begun TheStaircase but have a couple of questions...

Which version should I be using right this minute?
The websites you ask me to visit ask me for my resource collection rate, how can I get this stat in HotS?

Thanks
Sufyan
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands4 Posts
April 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#744
On April 14 2013 00:39 JaKaTaK wrote:
On the other hand, silver is so much easier to get into than it used to be. Maybe we will get rid of it for 6.0.


Yep! For anyone who didn't see:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7629778/Heart_of_the_Swarm_League_Percentages-11_03_2013
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 14 2013 01:16 GMT
#745
Yea, I've thought about it a bit now. Going to combine archons with templar and get rid of silver as a league goal.

The videos and OP in TL are old as fuck. I'm working on getting them up to speed, but I have a lot on my plate right now. For now go with the front page of the reference sheet
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
colonelvirus
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
April 14 2013 19:52 GMT
#746
Really enjoying this so far. Started with level 1 (gold league). My spending was diamond for like 5 games straight. I added in some gas for upgrades, stim, shields etc. Went down to plat lol. Obviously I can't spend gas very well. Still been a lot of fun working on my mechanics, just massing huge amounts of units and throwing them away at people whilst expanding. Losses are mainly due to splash (templar, collosus, tanks) but there is the odd build order rush I will lose too. As obviously I don't have anything practised, so my timings are damn slopping.

I'm currently trying pushing out at around 8-9 minutes, with stim (sometimes plus one... not sure how I fit that in) and an expansion. Normally have like 10-15 marines, does quite a bit of damage most of the time. Going to stick at level 1 for a while longer, I'm about 15 games into it. Want to explore all the options marines give me, especially for micro, what I can handle and what I can't. Thanks for this, having a blast. Definitely prefer this way of learning, I used to know several builds, but once the game deviated I would be loss. Also trying to learn to use the camera keys... that's a pain in the ass.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 14 2013 19:55 GMT
#747
Sounds good virus

Just remember that there are no timings in the stuff league, you can make pretty much any build work as long as you execute!
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 01:41:02
April 16 2013 01:35 GMT
#748
Here's your Update for TheStaircase:




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Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
April 17 2013 01:56 GMT
#749
On GGtracker, how do I view my max queen energy?
"If you give up on yourself, you give up on the world."
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 17 2013 02:22 GMT
#750
For now, you'll have to monitor that one in game. We're working on getting league goals up for injects right now. Alternatively, you can set your own benchmark for Injects with the "Inject Timing" metric that is in ggtracker now. We'll be using that as soon as we figure out what appropriate benchmarks for each league goal are.
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Thorrn
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia4 Posts
April 17 2013 16:45 GMT
#751
I have gone back to step 1 (obsessive compulsive desires win again) till I get the basics sorted out I mess up (building placement/army control group/base saturation/map presence).

For Terran I just wanted to check if its normal to get extra workers(beyond 16) at the main for building? With step 1 I might have 6+ building at any time.

Second I am wondering what the normal response to worker saturation is when you get 4+ bases. For example when I get my fourth base up do I wait for the main to mine out? or move all workers right away to the fourth? Or just some? Just wondering what is normal.

Cheers.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 17 2013 17:02 GMT
#752
@Thorn
You want 2 SCVs mining per patch, as long as you maintain that you're golden. So as far as when to transfer to the 4th, do it based on when you're mining out.

It is normal to put some extra SCVs at the base where you are building things for that exact reason
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
lomi
Profile Joined March 2011
France10 Posts
April 17 2013 17:20 GMT
#753
Heya,

I have some troubles to find my SQ on ggtrackers. In factI I managed to find it for 2v2 games but nothing appears in the 1v1 (where replays have been uploaded). Any clue ?

http://ggtracker.com/players/650228 is my profile on ggtracker. 2 pages ago, I read something with reaplays duplication with AI many I have the same problem with 2v2 ?

Thanks for helping me
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 17 2013 17:47 GMT
#754
Remember that TheStaircase does not use SQ anymore. We use Spending Skill which appears in the column with league badges. (sometimes takes a bit to load up).
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
lomi
Profile Joined March 2011
France10 Posts
April 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#755
Indeed, but i failed, i tought this was the same becaus when my mouse is over this badge "SQ is displayed. I was speaking about Spending Skill. My last replay has 5days so I think it is more than "a bit"
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
April 18 2013 01:36 GMT
#756
On April 18 2013 02:20 lomi wrote:
Heya,

I have some troubles to find my SQ on ggtrackers. In factI I managed to find it for 2v2 games but nothing appears in the 1v1 (where replays have been uploaded). Any clue ?

http://ggtracker.com/players/650228 is my profile on ggtracker. 2 pages ago, I read something with reaplays duplication with AI many I have the same problem with 2v2 ?

Thanks for helping me



Hi, check this out: http://ggtracker.com/faq#no_spending_skill

If that doesn't work PM me and we'll figure it out.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
lomi
Profile Joined March 2011
France10 Posts
April 18 2013 06:43 GMT
#757
Heya dsjoerg,

Thank for your help. I have already fill this, and click Update but I think it was buggy since I have never done the rest of the steps. Now it is completed, now it works !

Thanks !
noachr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States7 Posts
April 18 2013 07:13 GMT
#758
I think the race macro benchmark for protoss should be lowered for long games, at least at lower leagues. If I am at the supply cap, and done with upgrades, and have 6+ nexuses, what am I supposed to spend all that energy on?
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
April 18 2013 08:23 GMT
#759
On April 18 2013 16:13 noachr wrote:
I think the race macro benchmark for protoss should be lowered for long games, at least at lower leagues. If I am at the supply cap, and done with upgrades, and have 6+ nexuses, what am I supposed to spend all that energy on?


Be more aggressive so you don't remain supply capped. You can make attacks and chrono your production.
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
htou
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 10:20:15
April 18 2013 10:19 GMT
#760
I have been casually playing WOLs vs AI for about 3 weeks so im spanking new to the SC2 world. Stumbled on this very interesting thread but im a bit confused.

I play terran so at step 1 all i have to do is mine, no gas and attack move. What am i attacking with if i cant build battle units till step 2? SCV's?
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