EPT[G] PvT: Startale 2 Base Templar - Page 7
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synd
Bulgaria586 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
Game 1 shows a variant on this build. While it's not the same exact build, it's close enough. Also it's the best goddamn PvT i have ever seen. | ||
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Squiggles
Canada54 Posts
I definitely prefer going 2-base templar before transitioning into colossi later on, but my winrate PvT dropped dramatically ever since HOTS came out. IMO, it's easier for me to defend drops with templar than colossi (maybe I'm just horrible at splitting my army - and I love being liberal with observers), but I often die straight-up to a medivac timing attack. If I survive long enough to tech-switch to colossi, I usually win - I just need to figure out a way to survive before then. I don't recall at what time Parting gets storm? Should we be getting it sooner in HOTS now, or later, vs. WOL? | ||
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
On May 03 2013 22:13 Squiggles wrote: I bought the season pass just to watch this group, and more specifically, how Parting used templar instead of colossi. Some freaking amazing control. I definitely prefer going 2-base templar before transitioning into colossi later on, but my winrate PvT dropped dramatically ever since HOTS came out. IMO, it's easier for me to defend drops with templar than colossi (maybe I'm just horrible at splitting my army - and I love being liberal with observers), but I often die straight-up to a medivac timing attack. If I survive long enough to tech-switch to colossi, I usually win - I just need to figure out a way to survive before then. I don't recall at what time Parting gets storm? Should we be getting it sooner in HOTS now, or later, vs. WOL? I don't know why you're being liberal with observers. They're the best thing since sliced bread. If you're dieing a lot just try getting 1 col with no range before getting storm. It's much safer than this build. This build is super technical and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone below mid masters. I wouldn't even expect anyone below high masters to do it correctly. Partings storm depends on what his opponent is doing. If he feels he can take his third safely without getting storm then he usually does. | ||
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
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Squiggles
Canada54 Posts
On May 03 2013 22:23 -HuShang- wrote: I don't know why you're being liberal with observers. They're the best thing since sliced bread. If you're dieing a lot just try getting 1 col with no range before getting storm. It's much safer than this build. This build is super technical and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone below mid masters. I wouldn't even expect anyone below high masters to do it correctly. Partings storm depends on what his opponent is doing. If he feels he can take his third safely without getting storm then he usually does. I'm gonna give that a try. I think I have to get over the mental block over how much I'm investing on tech if I get both robo/colo and templar on 2-base before my 3rd. Oh, and liberal = I get a lot of em, getting colossi cramps my observer production (not sure if you got it the first time around - sorry!) | ||
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
On May 03 2013 22:27 Squiggles wrote: I'm gonna give that a try. I think I have to get over the mental block over how much I'm investing on tech if I get both robo/colo and templar on 2-base before my 3rd. Oh, and liberal = I get a lot of em, getting colossi cramps my observer production (not sure if you got it the first time around - sorry!) You can get 3 observers before either collossi or templar tech. Get both gas at around 6:45 at your natural and you'll have tons of extra gas. | ||
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DeltaBravo
United States119 Posts
On May 03 2013 21:07 Teoita wrote: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/80085 Game 1 shows a variant on this build. While it's not the same exact build, it's close enough. Also it's the best goddamn PvT i have ever seen. I have no freaking clue how Parting surivived, but it really shows that this build is extremely viable in the right hands, even in the age of turbo-vac drops. Parting looked like was going to lose the entire time, but the storms and army control let him keep his 3rd base. | ||
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
On May 04 2013 07:08 Teoita wrote: I've always held with chargelot/archon and no warp prisms tbh. The prism itself is nice but i don't think it's mandatory. It's way way way way way way way harder than holding with collossi. There's really no point not getting 1 collossi first if you're not going to get a warp prism. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
I went 3gate robo>single forge templar in about 80% of the PvT's i played from July 2012 until Januray 2013. PartinG got a warp prism in his game vs flash, did absolutely nothing with it, and still estabilished his thir succesfully (even though he lost it later, that has nothing to do with getting a warp prism or not). Please show me all these PvT's you seem to have seen where the Protoss goes 3gate robo/warp prism/templar, in which he holds a medivac timing exclusively thanks to the prism. | ||
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Sox03
Germany55 Posts
Maybe i try messing around with it again once i have my current build down good enough to be satisfied ^^ But really nice to hear templar openings start appearing in the scene again, maybe i get the pass of a friend to watch it  | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Stargate harassment followed by templar play is pretty good, you won't be needing robo at all as oracles are better scouts than observers anyway if they get a small speed buff. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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Sox03
Germany55 Posts
I hope i don't create any extra trouble still trying to get to the vods somehow QQ | ||
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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Sox03
Germany55 Posts
I think i'm going to rewatch it and start using it on the ladder. I also like the warp prism it seems kind of interesting | ||
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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