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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 27 2012 19:06 GMT
#21
I would love to try this but wouldnt just massing some lings at the beggining change things?
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Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
July 27 2012 19:28 GMT
#22
Genius, even though I'm protoss player. I really love to offrace as terran, and this build gonna make it so fun.

Imo, this has a lot of potential. Needs to be explored more and understand the ways zerg can counter this in practice and not theory crafting.
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
July 27 2012 19:29 GMT
#23
This is hilariously awesome. I definitely wanna give this a try later today, looks like much more fun than your standard TvZ.
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
July 27 2012 19:45 GMT
#24
I tried it! .. .. . . . Lets just say that you should not use this when zerg is 6 pooling! Ah the joys of being in silver league.
why?
reikai
Profile Joined January 2011
United States359 Posts
July 27 2012 19:49 GMT
#25
On July 28 2012 04:45 caznitch wrote:
I tried it! .. .. . . . Lets just say that you should not use this when zerg is 6 pooling! Ah the joys of being in silver league.


Use it on 4 player maps! they shouldn't 6 pool there.... :o a little micro with 2 rax always kills those lings :D
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HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
July 27 2012 19:50 GMT
#26
I never tried this build, but what about early roaches? burrow infestors with nydus? 3 base broodlords?
But this build looks veryy nice, I always thought about doing one push with bunkers, barracks with siege tanks behind, turrets, and u did.
RUFinalBoss
Profile Joined May 2012
United States266 Posts
July 27 2012 19:56 GMT
#27
i just tried it, zergs will now be saying nerf terran buildings xD
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6xFPCs
Profile Joined April 2009
United States412 Posts
July 27 2012 20:20 GMT
#28
So... zerg response should be fast ling speed and a runby before wall is finished? With a few spines to defend?

Or is the wall finished before ling speed is done? And is this faster than 17g speed? Or only faster than gas in response to contain?

Looks like good building placement far enough back from the ramp prevents spines from hitting the bunkers safely. Very clever.

Also, did I miss the part where you explain why 2base muta loses? Can't find anything but you making fun of nydus play.
E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
July 27 2012 20:26 GMT
#29
This is pretty much the greatest build/idea I've seen in a while.
Props to you good sir.
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:25:44
July 27 2012 20:32 GMT
#30
Why do you post pictures of a 12min baneling bust?
Any decent Zerg will notice the contain in front of his base and will certainly not wait until 12min to try to baneling bust it. I am not sure how much the inital 2rax delays the economy but I feel even if zerg fully saturates his 2 bases first and then baneling busts it hits before you set a massive contain. Whats even more funny is that on ohana there are 2 ramps you have to contain, which you dont, and the zerg doesnt even try to flank.
So much to your example...
Also I don't see how a base next to your contain negates nydus? You know you can place a nydus everywhere? Baneling busting the contain from 2 sides is way more effective
Last but not least: The zerg can deny the initial contain after the 2 rax, if he knows whats up and made enough lings or even takes some drones

I give you credit for the effort of trying and refining new strategies, but your example is a bit lacking
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 20:54:45
July 27 2012 20:53 GMT
#31
On July 28 2012 05:32 Split. wrote:
Why do you post pictures of a 12min baneling bust?
Any decent Zerg will notice the contain in front of his base and will certainly not wait until 12min to try to baneling bust it. I am not sure how much the inital 2rax delays the economy but I feel even if zerg fully saturates his 2 bases first and then baneling busts it hits before you set a massive contain. Whats even more funny is that on ohana there are 2 ramps you have to contain, which you dont, and the zerg doesnt even try to flank.
So much to your example...
Also I don't see how a base next to your contain negates nydus? You know you can place a nydus everywhere? Baneling busting the contain from 2 sides is way more effective
Last but not least: The zerg can deny the initial contain after the 2 rax, if he knows whats up and made enough lings or even takes some drones

I give you credit for the effort of trying and refining new strategies, but your example is a but lacking


I think this is a good example of "out-of-the-box" thinking and should be commended. But I do agree with some of your points. I think this build only works depending on the map; Ohana is not a good example because of the destructible at the natural, while I think maps like Antiga make this more viable. So I might try this depending on the map. Maybe Steps of War!
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Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
July 27 2012 20:55 GMT
#32
Im gonna offrace just to try this, looks ridiculously fun.
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Equalizer
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada115 Posts
July 27 2012 20:59 GMT
#33
I could see this being effective with mech considering that by relocating there pretty much no push distance from your production facilities to the zerg base.

Your main ends up being rather far way from your army though if the game continues on to muta or nydus tech.

What do you think of relocating your main cc to say the zergs 4th once your expo is up and you can mine from there?
(this could loose too much mining time but just throwing the idea out there)
The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it.
HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
July 27 2012 21:12 GMT
#34
Sensor towers looks very good for this build too, against nydus,mutas, mass overlord drops etc.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 27 2012 21:26 GMT
#35
nice fun strat that can catch ppl offguard, but if they simply baneling bust ur front with the help of some queens and drones, u automatically lose, dont u? i mean, your expension is gone as well...

dont see this working, but its rly creative and fun either way
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 27 2012 22:14 GMT
#36
Cool build will try it out for fun and lolz in the ladder :D
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Ethical
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany9 Posts
July 27 2012 22:27 GMT
#37
Just tried it out, it worked perfectly well for me (Diamond Terran). Very creative build which also makes a lot of fun! Thanks for this
kranten
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands236 Posts
July 27 2012 22:49 GMT
#38
Haha, great build. Just faced 2 base broodlord/infestor (wanted to wait it out and see what he was going to do)
Crilmon
Profile Joined April 2012
United States28 Posts
July 27 2012 22:49 GMT
#39
Yeah, any sort of blind 9ish min roach/bane bust (or earlier cause of rush distance) would absolutely crush this, cause you have 0 tanks until around 10 min.
RoberP
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
July 31 2012 13:10 GMT
#40
Yeah it probably would, but the whole point is that most people won't have seen this before and don't know how to counter it Blind builds can counter a lot of builds, they also just lose to a lot of builds as well Glad people are having success with this - post replays and I'll add them to the main topic so we can share your glory!
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