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JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-20 16:20:13
July 20 2017 15:51 GMT
#8421
On July 20 2017 21:42 jotschgi10 wrote:
Well as i said my ALT GR is being registerd as ALT + CONTROL so when iam adding camera locations iam creating control groups at the same time.
Could you maybe sent me your hotkeys ? just so i can try it out ? Maybe i fucked something up.
E-mail would be: jojo1234-1234@web.de

Oh and how do you use Conrol for taking away AND adding units ?


Email send. I use Shift+Ctrl for setting camera positions.

In Hotkeys under Control groups, if you scroll down, there is a key named "add to control groups and take away units", that is how
DoubleDouble2
Profile Joined July 2017
1 Post
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 05:48:16
July 23 2017 05:43 GMT
#8422
+ Show Spoiler +
I see control groups are made using variations of Alt+Shift+[j/p/;/etc]
Do you use the entire bottom of your thumb; almost your palm, to hit both alt and shift?
It seems very awkward to me.


Nvm.. I see the add/steal thing is meant to be used. >< Thanks!
jotschgi10
Profile Joined July 2017
3 Posts
July 26 2017 15:08 GMT
#8423
Someone of you sent me your hotkeys and I tried them. But everytime i creat a Camera Location i create a CG.
JackieJJ
Profile Joined August 2017
1 Post
August 09 2017 15:37 GMT
#8424
Hi,

Completely new SC2 player here. I nearly don't know anything about the game. I did the tutorials and started the Terran campaign. I am using the standart layout. However, obviously I am not used to any hotkey layout yet and I thought it would be benefitial to just learn an optimized layout right from the start, as I don't have to unlearn anything.

That out of the way: all my "create location" hotkeys are unbound and I don't know what I should bind them to because, as it seems, any ctrl, alt and shift combination has been used already.

I am using a a logitech G910 keyboard with a Swiss layout. I have downloaded TheCore 3.0, Swiss, RRM. I don't know yet which race I will focus on yet, so I thought I should download the random version for now. (Any different suggestions here?)

Another problem I have encountered is, that it is nearly impossible for me to hit combinations such as alt+shift. Even when removing the keys between alt and ctrl, it is really uncomfortable and I am hitting other keys in the process. My hands are rather small and so is my thumb - maybe that is why. (Possible solution for this is to maybe bind this combination to a key on my mouse, since I have a few unused ones there - using the G502.)

I really like the idea of using the right side of my keyboard. The thumb-argument is really strong in my opinion. That is why I am not particularly interested in the lite version.
bobo38
Profile Joined February 2016
France220 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 16:51:16
August 09 2017 16:50 GMT
#8425
On August 10 2017 00:37 JackieJJ wrote:
I really like the idea of using the right side of my keyboard. The thumb-argument is really strong in my opinion. That is why I am not particularly interested in the lite version.

I'm using (and maintaining) TheCore Lite. At the moment I'm experimenting the Ctl key on the mouse (forward button) to overcome the limitations related to the placement of the standard control key. I would not advice more my stuff
Check out TheCore Lite last release:
https://github.com/bobo38/TheCoreLite/releases
ngUS14
Profile Joined August 2017
1 Post
August 09 2017 22:46 GMT
#8426
So if i have a qwerty keyboard without Alt Gr which file do I download? The faq says I must have downloaded the wrong one but the only good option is US qwerty. I don't understand.
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary405 Posts
August 09 2017 23:56 GMT
#8427
JackieJJ: (I'm a long time Core user noob)

You probably will not have a lot to 'unlearn', if you ever played any strat game or any game with control groups, the standard setup will feel natural. as I see/feel it, The Core, while being a very nice idea (and I can only recommend switching to it), is not really a totally supported as it is now. With LotV released, Coops being introduced I felt I'm a bit on my own when I wanted to use Core. Which I don't mind at all, I downloaded a ZRM medium and added/changed quite a few things that was needed (new units/abilities in LotV, I switched to Core while playing the beta).

So I think you just might want to play the standard for a while, decide which race(s) you like the most, and maybe after that, switch to Core.

I'm not following the discussions here, but it seems the alt+shift and other hardly accessible things are there because you are not supposed to use that as it is, but it keeps the SC2 client options menu happy, because this way all functions have hotkeys.

I can tell you what I personally, a random dia noob use, and you do whatever you want with this information.
I only (95%) use steal hotkeys, those are configured to my CTRL+* keys (*= OIULK.,098). Sometimes I fuck up and I use set hotkeys (old HotS style set hotkeys) with CTRL+SHIFT+*. I use ALT+* and SHIFT+* (*= OIKL098U) to save and recall camera locations. I do use the CTRL+(P,J) (set,recall) combo for some quick locations, in fact, I extended them to CTRL+{P-[} to set and CTRL+{JHN} to recall loc 6-7-8. I use ALT+' to center on selection.

So when a game starts I will ALT+' on my main base, ALT+O set it to loc 1. Then using the minimap, keeping the left button clicked, i add the next 3 locations using ALT+{IKL}. When I start to build a base there, I will select the building and ALT+' to center on it, then set it again to the centered location. I use CTRL+{P,J} for rally point, -.H and [,N for drop locations, but that's an area where I need to improve, I don't use them that much as it would be helpful.

Hope this helps. Core is great stuff.


goldsteal29a
Profile Blog Joined August 2017
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 09:29:48
August 15 2017 00:19 GMT
#8428
I have the same problem as jotschgi10 i.e. German Keyboard with ALT+GR key...
I am using the Core RRM 3.0.

Used F1 and so on for now to create the hotkeys but it SUCKS.

If anyone has any better Idea without drastically changing everything else I would love to hear from you.


E-mail at: thecore@goldsteal.com

@JWD[9]: How do you deal with creating controlgroups then if you use STRG+SHIFT for the Location keys?

P.S.: This is a new TL account since I do not have access to my old one (goldsteal) right now. Hopefully I can regain access to that in time...
GhostMatter
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10 Posts
August 15 2017 01:17 GMT
#8429
French Canadian keyboard here. I just switch the keyboard to English when I launch Starcraft II. It works right away and the game adapts. In Windows, I set Ctrl+Shift+1 and +2 as French and English, respectively.
goldsteal29a
Profile Blog Joined August 2017
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 10:57:33
August 15 2017 09:30 GMT
#8430
On August 15 2017 10:17 GhostMatter wrote:
French Canadian keyboard here. I just switch the keyboard to English when I launch Starcraft II. It works right away and the game adapts. In Windows, I set Ctrl+Shift+1 and +2 as French and English, respectively.


I'll be trying this out now. Thanks for the suggestion.

Edit:

So it works like a charm now. But one problem I do have with your suggestion as soon as I clicked on any building or unit in the Game I cannot create new camera hotkeys since using the ALT (in reality of course the ALTGR key) also seems to center on the selected unit.

How do you guys deal with that. Am I using TheCore wrong?
GhostMatter
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10 Posts
August 15 2017 16:47 GMT
#8431
Great!

The camera center is normal, it's explained in one of the explanation videos. You need to press alt and keep it pressed while you move around setting the cameras. You only need this once per game normally. Then you can use that that key to quickly move your camera when you select certain units.

You can always remove the hotkey for it.
goldsteal29a
Profile Blog Joined August 2017
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 01:56:34
August 17 2017 01:56 GMT
#8432
I think I found the video you referenced. Will keep it for now and spend my off day tomorrow practicing.
Flex-Ible
Profile Joined July 2017
3 Posts
August 17 2017 22:41 GMT
#8433
Is the core going to be updated for the new multiplayer changes?
MilExo
Profile Joined September 2011
South Africa139 Posts
August 18 2017 19:05 GMT
#8434
TheCore hasn't really been updated for LotV completely and with these changes still open to dramatic changes, highly unlikely. You can however make the updates following the same logic and share it with everyone.
R05
Profile Joined April 2014
Canada47 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-22 23:35:18
August 22 2017 22:50 GMT
#8435
Where can i get the updated version of ZRM 2.0? I've stopped playing for a while and the file on Skydrive have missing keys. I can't complete my 2.0 since there are missing informations in the master spreadsheet too (LoTV is missing).

Or should i just switch to 3.0..
bsvv
Profile Joined September 2017
5 Posts
September 02 2017 16:21 GMT
#8436
Hey,

i Play ZRM and have a huge Problem. I can´t delete a unit from my Control Group because of my new setting.. :/

Anyone a clue how to do this. Would be very helpful.


bsvv
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary405 Posts
September 02 2017 19:36 GMT
#8437
sacrifice one ctrl group for unused/removed units. for me (ZRM also) this is U.
i just CTRL-U any units i don't need on ctrl groups anymore (patroling/scouting lings, whatever).

28
Profile Joined September 2017
11 Posts
September 03 2017 05:03 GMT
#8438
I am learning thecore 3.0 PRM. I find that pressing N and M with my little finger while sitting other fingers on home position feels pretty inconvenient. Such as building a portal gate, I have to press O+M, , since Protoss need to build portal gate very often, how you guys solve this problem? In addition, will you guys keeping on pressing O followed by M,or just press O, then leave O and finally press N?
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
September 03 2017 16:51 GMT
#8439
@28

Don't try to force your other fingers to stay where they are! This is going to cause you unnecessary discomfort and cut into your endurance. Try to play with a more relaxed hand, if other fingers move when you move your primary finger(the one pressing the button) let them do whatever they do naturally, then return to the home position after the keypress.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
28
Profile Joined September 2017
11 Posts
September 10 2017 14:58 GMT
#8440
How to fast drop/ carpet drop with rapid fire tech? Such as for PRM,we use "O" to drop, but "O" is not a key for rapid fire.
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