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digitebs
Profile Joined October 2015
1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-10-30 06:50:40
October 30 2015 06:35 GMT
#7801
I'm able to make this work 1.0 using left hand on the left hand side of the keyboard. since I'm using mac. the ctrl is command. using thumb then pinky for shift. postioning the index finger to f/d as your anchor.
Alch3mist
Profile Joined December 2011
Belgium29 Posts
October 30 2015 14:44 GMT
#7802
Do you know of any way to use other keys as modifiers? I'm using a Typematrix 2030 keyboard and the alt is kind of hard to reach with the thumb on the right side. It would be awesome if it was possible to use something like the right arrow as Alt modifier.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
October 31 2015 01:05 GMT
#7803
On October 30 2015 15:35 digitebs wrote:
I'm able to make this work 1.0 using left hand on the left hand side of the keyboard. since I'm using mac. the ctrl is command. using thumb then pinky for shift. postioning the index finger to f/d as your anchor.


almost anything can be made to work. But that doesn't mean its better.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
PoBear
Profile Joined September 2015
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 13:17:45
November 02 2015 22:49 GMT
#7804
On October 30 2015 23:44 Alch3mist wrote:
Do you know of any way to use other keys as modifiers? I'm using a Typematrix 2030 keyboard and the alt is kind of hard to reach with the thumb on the right side. It would be awesome if it was possible to use something like the right arrow as Alt modifier.


You can use sharpkeys to remap the keys globally for windows and then use an AutoHotkey-script to revert the change when Starcraft II is not running. This is what I did and it uses the setup described in "theCore from hell" in the master spreadsheet. I think it works great and so far I have no issues with the remapping.

+ Show Spoiler +

Remaps in sharpkeys (this is how they will behave in starcraft):
  • Special: Applcation ("list key") -> Special: RShift
  • Special: LAlt -> Special: Application
  • Special: Right Ctrl -> Special: Left Alt
  • Special: Right Shift -> Special: Right Ctrl


AutoHotkey script (put it in your startup folder so it starts with windows):

#NoEnv ; Recommended for performance and compatibility with future AutoHotkey releases.
; #Warn ; Enable warnings to assist with detecting common errors.
SendMode Input ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir% ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.


Process, Priority, , High

; Revert keys when starcraft is not running....
; In starcraft window:
#IfWin[b]Not[/b]Active StarCraft II
Rshift::Send {Blind}{AppsKey DownTemp}
Rshift up::Send {Blind}{AppsKey up}

AppsKey::Send {Blind}{LAlt DownTemp}
AppsKey up::Send {Blind}{LAlt up}

LAlt::Send {Blind}{RCtrl DownTemp}
LAlt up::Send {Blind}{RCtrl up}

RCtrl::Send {Blind}{RShift DownTemp}
RCtrl up::Send {Blind}{RShift up}

Return
#IfWin[b]Not[/b]Active
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
November 03 2015 03:05 GMT
#7805
What you call "TheCore from hell" I call TheCore+
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
PoBear
Profile Joined September 2015
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 04:58:50
November 03 2015 04:57 GMT
#7806
On November 03 2015 12:05 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
What you call "TheCore from hell" I call TheCore+


Well, it isn't actually me who calls it that, but the one who wrote the sheet, wich I'm guessing is you . Btw I noticed it uses pinky and middlefinger for cg, is that only for random or did that turn out to be the most effective?
Alch3mist
Profile Joined December 2011
Belgium29 Posts
November 03 2015 22:09 GMT
#7807
On November 03 2015 07:49 PoBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 23:44 Alch3mist wrote:
Do you know of any way to use other keys as modifiers? I'm using a Typematrix 2030 keyboard and the alt is kind of hard to reach with the thumb on the right side. It would be awesome if it was possible to use something like the right arrow as Alt modifier.


You can use sharpkeys to remap the keys globally for windows and then use an AutoHotkey-script to revert the change when Starcraft II is not running. This is what I did and it uses the setup described in "theCore from hell" in the master spreadsheet. I think it works great and so far I have no issues with the remapping.

+ Show Spoiler +

Remaps in sharpkeys (this is how they will behave in starcraft):
  • Special: Applcation ("list key") -> Special: RShift
  • Special: LAlt -> Special: Application
  • Special: Right Ctrl -> Special: Left Alt
  • Special: Right Shift -> Special: Right Ctrl


AutoHotkey script (put it in your startup folder so it starts with windows):

#NoEnv ; Recommended for performance and compatibility with future AutoHotkey releases.
; #Warn ; Enable warnings to assist with detecting common errors.
SendMode Input ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir% ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.


Process, Priority, , High

; Revert keys when starcraft is not running....
; In starcraft window:
#IfWinNotActive StarCraft II
Rshift::Send {Blind}{AppsKey DownTemp}
Rshift up::Send {Blind}{AppsKey up}

AppsKey::Send {Blind}{LAlt DownTemp}
AppsKey up::Send {Blind}{LAlt up}

LAlt::Send {Blind}{RCtrl DownTemp}
LAlt up::Send {Blind}{RCtrl up}

RCtrl::Send {Blind}{RShift DownTemp}
RCtrl up::Send {Blind}{RShift up}

Return
#IfWinNotActive


Awesome, it looks like it's exactly what I wanted, I'll try that, thanks!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
November 05 2015 00:09 GMT
#7808
@PoBear
Link me! I totally forgot about this sheet. Also, the test results were inconclusive.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
PoBear
Profile Joined September 2015
Sweden16 Posts
November 05 2015 09:55 GMT
#7809
here it is TheCore Master Spreadsheet
IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
November 07 2015 17:30 GMT
#7810
Coming back for lotv after a long time away, learning 2.0, great stuff, thanks!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 15:27:56
November 10 2015 15:27 GMT
#7811
I'll be running through the campaign and filling in the gaps for TheCore 3.0 on stream today (and likely for the next week) twitch.tv/jakataktv
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
November 10 2015 19:12 GMT
#7812
How are people managing injects with the LotV change to queens? Seems like the ability to inject on a hatchery that already has an inject on it makes the queens wander around now. Any thoughts? Noticed Destiny having this problem on stream last night and i don't think he's Core user so i believe this problem exists in general for "backspace method" injects
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
November 11 2015 02:31 GMT
#7813
I have a question.
What is first?
TheCore+ or 3.0(campaign) or 3.0(multi)?
thx
OvO
Coldblackice
Profile Joined April 2011
United States49 Posts
November 11 2015 02:42 GMT
#7814
Any updates so far regarding using TheCore for LotV campaign?
Trizztein
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada45 Posts
November 11 2015 11:10 GMT
#7815
On November 11 2015 11:42 Coldblackice wrote:
Any updates so far regarding using TheCore for LotV campaign?


I am not playing the campaign until TheCore 3.0 is out and ready to be used for it!!!

(anyways I've got studies up until that may happen haha).
PoBear
Profile Joined September 2015
Sweden16 Posts
November 11 2015 12:37 GMT
#7816
On November 11 2015 04:12 Lobotomist wrote:
How are people managing injects with the LotV change to queens? Seems like the ability to inject on a hatchery that already has an inject on it makes the queens wander around now. Any thoughts? Noticed Destiny having this problem on stream last night and i don't think he's Core user so i believe this problem exists in general for "backspace method" injects


I think there is two options. Either switch to something else like rapid fire or box select queens, or you can hit "stop" / "hold position" after injects. Haven't tried that myself but it should work. I personally switched to camera locations and box select.
turboPasqual
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany21 Posts
November 11 2015 12:57 GMT
#7817
On November 11 2015 00:27 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
I'll be running through the campaign and filling in the gaps for TheCore 3.0 on stream today (and likely for the next week) twitch.tv/jakataktv


Thank you so much in advance. Would you mind giving us an update on your progress every now and then?
I am really looking forward for the updated version.
Perniciator
Profile Joined November 2015
2 Posts
November 11 2015 13:33 GMT
#7818
Im about switching from Zerg to Terran in Lotv. Is it recommended to switch from ZRM to TRM or RRM ?
Im using the core since 2-3 weeks. In my opinion the terran hotkeys dont make much sense. Why is there such a huge difference between the races? Is it important to have the right hotkeys for the race? Or is it ok to play terran with zerg layout. I feel ok with it; any suggestions or explainations? Thanks
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
November 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#7819
There will be TheCore 3.0, TheCore+ 3.0 and TheCore Lite 3.0

and I am working on them in that order. Each will provide full support in campaign as well as multi-player.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
rfv14
Profile Joined October 2015
20 Posts
November 11 2015 16:26 GMT
#7820
Will TheCore+ use all combinations of the modifier keys? I count 8 possible modes: no-keys, Ctrl, Alt, Shift, Ctrl+Alt (=AltGr), Ctrl+Shift, Shift+Alt, Ctrl+Alt+Shift (=AltGr+Shift).
My idea is to rebind my keys like this: "/"->Alt "Shift"->Shift "right Alt"->Alt "right Win key"->Shift "Menu key"->Ctrl "right Ctrl"->AltGr
so the result is this:

_____| ALT ||___SHIFT__|
|ALT||SHIFT||CTRL||AltGr|

I used it in the past for WoW with much success.
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