EPTthe one that seems to actually work and I don't remember where I found it is http://ivanvolosyuk.github.io/thecorevisualizer/visualizer/
what are the suggested hotkeys for CC and Rax in RRM 2.0?
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Vanngar
United States30 Posts
the one that seems to actually work and I don't remember where I found it is http://ivanvolosyuk.github.io/thecorevisualizer/visualizer/ what are the suggested hotkeys for CC and Rax in RRM 2.0? | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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NjalSC
Ukraine8 Posts
Some testimonials. I'm trying to learn Protoss from scratch (was playing Terran in WoL), just switched to RRM 2.0 from 0.3.3 after a looong pause. New layout feels quite awesome -- much better than old one. What do I like so far (in comparison): 1. Very smooth basic building combinations (2 different fingers to start combo) 2. Synergy of Ctrl, Shift and groups 3. Auto warp-in What I don't like so far: 1. Suggested camera keys. Why Main is "J" but 2nd 3rd 4th are "P" "O" "I"? When you cycle through cameras, natural way is JIOP or POIJ (case it's easier to "wave" fingers than to pick individuals). I don't get JPOI. Also I've turned off center on Alt. Of course, spells mapping is good as usual. | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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brook8128
Korea (South)66 Posts
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JaKaTaKSc2
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brook8128
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Bazik
Portugal104 Posts
I came back to sc2 recently for LotV since I have access. I used to play with the core 1.0 which I just love (I used to make my own custom hotkey layouts bk in wc3, editing the textfile was weirdly fun and boring at the same time  ) Anyway starting with LotV I decided It was prob time to switch to 2.0 which to my dismay jakatak said wasn't worth it cause the time spent getting used to the new layout was better spent just improving on the game. At which point the OCD in me said "HELL NO", and obviously went and got it. At the moment I would say I'm at 70-80% back on track with my hotkey efficiency and not fully bk to not thinking about hotkeys at all so not exactly awesome yet, but I'll get there. Now having said that I have to say that to me 2.0 is a huge improvement over 1.0. Not in the sense that 2.0 in comparison to standard is much better than 1.0, cause in that respect I feel that their both very close to each other in terms of efficiency, so the advice of not changing is correct in my oppinion. Having said that for new Zerg players(dunno about the other layouts) the new scheme is extremely better, much more intuitive. Changing attack from your pinky to your index finger is just straight up better, not only that but most unit keys are also on your index which is something you do a lot, so it's much better. For example, stuff like the queen hotkey is far away which makes sense since u'll mostly use at the start of the game which is also a lot smarter than the old positioning, and many more of this kinds of changes that I really enjoy. --------------------------------This part is now garbage since I was writing from work and it was wrong :D------------------------------------- There were some compromises tho, now to get to cameras we need to Shift which I'm not really liking and I think that I'll try changing it to create control group and cameras to Ctrl and Add to group to shift since I use camera a lot more than I use new control group. This might be different for other races but as a Zerg having camera's on all my bases is key to good inject practices which make it essential. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last but not least I would like to talk about the skills on opposite fingers and grouping in the middle, something that I thought would be weird to get used to, turns out to be awesome. Having the skills in a background position in the end of the day is awesome, the reality is most of the time attacking should be prioritized since u'll be under pressure when u really need it while a skill is always something that you really need to think about before doing it cause the energy/cooldown is way to important to spend on nothing so it ends making a lot of sense. groups come right after so having Ur main group right after the index in the middle finger makes a lot sense also showing that macro comes before everything else something that new players have a big problem understanding (no units = no win) and only then on the ring finger Ur main army. Finally I would just like to say Thanks to everyone involved in the project and please keep doing it cause it's so awesome. :D TLDR: Even tho 2.0 isn't a mandatory upgrade from 1.0 anyone that comes in new should look at 1.0 like Windows95, it was cool back then but there's a better version now. EDIT: Spelling errors EDIT2: Ok now I had time to check the hotkeys for groups and cameras problem I was having, essentially reverted to the system used in 1.0 where ctrl creates shift adds and cameras on crtl+shift since those are just preference and have no bearing on actual effiencicy I figured I might just get bk to what I'm confortable with. EDIT3: Note on bad stuff from the post | ||
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Saeldran
Spain11 Posts
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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R05
Canada47 Posts
If yes, will some of the old keybinds be moved around to make place for the new ones or will they be put on keys that aren't already used. Thanks. | ||
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Bazik
Portugal104 Posts
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Coldblackice
United States49 Posts
Is there any reason to not go with "Random"? Or why might another profile might be better than random? And what if one wants to play random, but also wants to play Zerg in HotS campaign? (I realize some campaign buttons aren't mapped - I'm meaning generally) | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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Coldblackice
United States49 Posts
On April 15 2015 02:22 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote: All hotkeys should be mapped, if there not, it is an error. Each layout is made in such a way that the primary race is optimized and the off races are made to be as easy and intuitive to switch to as possible. The Random layout seeks to compromise between all the races and is not perfectly optimized for any as a result. If you have a primary race, choose the version with your primary race, otherwise choose random. Cool, thanks Jak. How about you -- what do you personally use? PS -- every time I look over this project, I marvel at the sheer awesomeness of it, along with TheStaircase, as well. Pure genius. Has Blizzard contacted you regarding either of these? These should be the de facto training tutorials included in the game. Why isn't TheStaircase built into SC2? Forget the 5 useless placement matches -- it should be the 5 levels of TheStaircase. Maybe we could petition Blizz to get it in. Jak, out of curiosity, what's your educational background? | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
I have a BA in Music from Rhode Island College. | ||
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brook8128
Korea (South)66 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pOApJzg.jpg) I got placed in Master! Thank you for making RRM 2.0. I want to see TheCore+ soon. | ||
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Borskey
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So, as a personal question, I'm getting back into SC2. Right now, I'm using TheCore ZRM 1.0 with a slight personal modification (for creep spread, from what I helped test out a loooong time ago in this thread). I saw you said not to switch to 2.0 yet, as it's only a very small improvement from 1.0. My question is, when should I switch, and how "complete" is 2.0? I'd like a layout that's fairly stable with respect to LotV- will ZRM 1.0 require any major changes for LotV? I'm kind of assuming 2.0 is being developed with LotV in mind, whereas 1.0 wasn't really. | ||
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MyMomIsAlive
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JaKaTaKSc2
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