Is there any estimate when theCore 2.0 RRM is gonna be put into the visualizer?
If its still gonna take a long time i guess im gonna try the RRM layout right away.(How far is it finished?,are there still any "experiments" with which key iare the best,etc. going on or only some small tweaks?)
Is it worth switching?(Improvement from 1.0 -> 2.0 ?)

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

May 23 2014 21:41 GMT

#6662

@Ninjury: I was simply missing the information, that the base cam should be on = when I created the hotkey file. A lot of other stuff is missing in the hotkey file (creep cam hotkeys, off race optimisation, correct upgrade binding) that was added to the spreadsheet in the meantime.

JaKaTaKSc2

United States2787 Posts

May 23 2014 22:04 GMT

#6663

@R05
~~I have no idea why its doing that. What language did you download?~~

Okay, so the Zerg files are not accurate, there's going to be stuff missing and stuff wrong. I'll do my best to find time to update the file with the correct keys.

Ninjury_J

Canada408 Posts

May 23 2014 22:24 GMT

#6664

McMatus, I have no idea when the visualizer is updated, but most likely not before all the layouts are complete and out of beta. There are still small tweaks which are possible, but nothing on the horizon. I would say that switching depends on whether you want to put in the time and effort to do so. It should be a much easier switch from standard to 1.0, but still may take a week or two to adjust.

Here are the creep cameras for ZRM:
recall 1 - set 1 =
recall 2 p set 2 [
recall 3 ; set 3 '
recalls are hit with the middle finger, even though they are on index keys (if you are doing the creep spread method).

JaKaTaKSc2

United States2787 Posts

May 23 2014 22:48 GMT

#6665

"it should be a much easier switch [than the one] from standard to 1.0"

FTFY

@mcmatus
The visualizer is reaallllllllyyyy time consuming to update as it is written in an uncommon language: coffee script and I am not very experienced in the matter. I know what to do but it is a slow process. I try to update it as few times as possible so it will only be updated after 2.0 is finished and we're working solely on presentation.

HerrPfotig

Germany39 Posts

May 24 2014 11:01 GMT

#6666

Ghost usage in TvP has the most ability combinations:

cloak -> nuke (or the other way around to buy extra seconds until detection arrives to land the nuke)
blanket emp -> cloak -> snipe

emp->cloak->snipe can be combined differently depending on the situation and/or ghost energy

R05

Canada47 Posts

May 24 2014 14:53 GMT

#6667

How do i use rapid fire inject with ZRM its not very comfortable to me, do i press U with the pinkie or with the ring finger and then "-" and "=" at same time with middle finger and index?

Thanks

JaKaTaKSc2

United States2787 Posts

May 24 2014 15:39 GMT

#6668

@R05
As far as I understand it's U with pinky and then - and = at the same time. But Ninjury should be able to confirm.

Ninjury_J

Canada408 Posts

May 24 2014 17:27 GMT

#6669

Yea thats right jak. Its slightly uncomfortable, but it gets nicer with practice and is the best (only) way we could come up with that transfers to making units right after.

R05

Canada47 Posts

May 24 2014 21:23 GMT

#6670

Theres one last thing so far that is slightly bothering me:

When i want to remake a control group with "Ctrl+Shift", I sometimes do the mistake of pressing them in the wrong order and after that i can't use "Ctrl" key again until i restart the game.

I don't know how to fix this problem and im not sure where its from (keyboard, windows, sc2...) So maybe you guys would know since the core is probably the only public layout that use both these keys at the same time. One thing i know is that its not from the hotkey file, i switched hotkey presets and it was still there.

Anyone else having this issue?

Thanks.

Ninjury_J

Canada408 Posts

May 24 2014 21:43 GMT

#6671

I've never heard of that myself.... Maybe Jak knows?

R05

Canada47 Posts

May 24 2014 22:28 GMT

#6672

It only happened to me after i formatted my computer, i used core 1.0 for a short period but it didn't happen, maybe i was always hitting "Ctrl+Shift" right. I'm new to sc2 and i didnt have playtime experience with the 1.0 layout so it might have been a thing with the 1.0 layout too.

Anyways, if its not something affecting everybody using the core, dont worry about it, ill look into it deeper.

Jusseppe

Mexico3 Posts

May 25 2014 00:18 GMT

#6673

I would like to start learning TheCore 2.0. I have already learned most hotkeys, but what I'm not sure how to go about is learning the control groups and cameras. In "TheCore Master Spreadsheet", under "R. Key-use Overview", there's a section called "Suggested CG Use". If I play Protoss are those CGs the ones I should be using? Or should I use the ones under "P. Finger Split" and "R. Finger Split"?

Also, in "R. Key-use Overview" is Army 2 the group where I'm supposed to keep my melee units?

Thanks a lot and great job!

GhostMatter

Canada10 Posts

May 25 2014 02:45 GMT

#6674

Has anyone done a French Canadian (French QWERTY) version? Is it needed? Searching turned up nothing.

Can I still submit one to you guys?

EDIT: Testing it out, it seems to work as-is but I'd appreciate confirmation from another person

Also, why should I use a size over the other?

Slashiepie

107 Posts

May 25 2014 10:52 GMT

#6675

Where is the download link for 2.0 ? Does anyone have it?
I remember seeing it posted somewhere in the thread, but going through so many pages is too time consuming.

Is the Terran 2.0 usable Or is at least the Random 2.0 usable for Terran?

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

May 25 2014 12:16 GMT

#6676

@Jussuppe: I assume you are using the Random 2.0 hotkey file. Therefore you should also be using the suggested CGs from the R. Key-Use Overview sheet. As those were created with the Random hotkey layout in mind.

@Slashiepie: You can find the latest hotkey files here (the link can also be found at the bottom of the first post in this thread). But be aware that those are still in beta.
If I recall correctly there is no Terran file yet, so I would suggest using the Random layout. It was designed to give a good and consistent experience with all 3 races, so I think it is your best bet

brook8128

Korea (South)66 Posts

May 25 2014 13:44 GMT

#6677

Can you rework R key-use Overview like reworked Z?
R overview has some problems that creep cam recall1 changed recall2, suggest CG has harass2 > Nexus and base camera5 changed chrono camera.
And reworked Z is very good to watch it.

R05

Canada47 Posts

May 25 2014 21:26 GMT

#6678

Can someone confirm if my issue that i talked above in the forum is something only affecting me.

I want to know why its doing that because it ruins my games since i cant make any control groups afterwards if i misclick. Playing without control groups is impossible.

Thanks

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

May 25 2014 21:55 GMT

#6679

@R05:Never happened to me.
But one thing you could try: The next time this problem occurs, please go into the hotkey options in SC2 and try to assign the key combination you are trying to press to anything (just exit with cancle afterwards, so no changes are saved). Thereby you can check, if Starcraft 2 does not see your Ctrl key press, or if there is another problem (maybe caps lock or something).
And about what CG are we talking? There is a known bug with Ctrl+Shift+0 (zero) in windows that is described in the FAQ.
Also you maybe want to tab out of the game to the windows desktop and check, if the keyboard language was changed somehow and this is affecting the hotkey you are trying to press.

R05

Canada47 Posts

May 25 2014 23:10 GMT

#6680

Thanks for the response YoTcA,

It works now! Apparently it was because of my keyboard language, i had to put it to English/United States.