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brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
May 21 2014 02:53 GMT
#6641
ah I have mistake. shift ;JLH9 is hard. shift -OILK is easy
OvO
PZ31k0nauT
Profile Joined December 2012
13 Posts
May 21 2014 10:53 GMT
#6642
I play Random with RRM

For Inject I use: J90HL
Especially the first three are easy for me: J(pinky), 9 (ring), 0 (middle); so no repetition there.
My free cams are: ctrl+I (rally) and ctrl+p or ctrl+k, for creep or ramps.

Are there any suggested control groups?
For macro I use J (queen or hatch and production) and 0(zero) (queen or hatch and bases +tech).
For army: 9 (melee), O (main army), L (spellcaster), H (harass), N (corrupter, viking) ....

For practicing key combinations I think the unit tester (hots) version is pretty good. I can set up my macro and army. Save the whole thing to a slot in the map. I´ve done this for all three races.
I then move my army around, while producing stuff which gets automatically destroyed by a lot of cannons .

I hope this is helpful.

TheCore is awesome ^^
Ninjury_J
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada408 Posts
May 21 2014 13:41 GMT
#6643
I love the idea of using the unit tester for macro! Cool idea.
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."- Sun Tzu
HerrPfotig
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany39 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 14:45:52
May 21 2014 14:30 GMT
#6644
PURPLE; US qwerty; RXM: Has anybody ever tried the CG combination of

9->Y
O->H
L->N


to attackmove/r-clickmove around 6 things in CGs

??

I never had to undo the spacing between middle and pinky finger, and after 5 minutes of practice it already felt pretty natural and fluid

edit: O means the letter not the number
HerrPfotig
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany39 Posts
May 21 2014 16:33 GMT
#6645
I think for every stutterstep technique a player can utilize, he should be able to use HoldPosition, Stop, Patrol commands in conjunction with an AttackMove afterwards. (especially Reaper, Banshee, Muta, Oracle play)

Unless im doing something wrong
Beedebdoo
Profile Joined June 2013
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 06:52:19
May 22 2014 14:45 GMT
#6646
Attack move commands units to move to a location, and attack anything in range.
Hold Position freezes the unit to the ground, and attack anything in range.
Stop cancel all commands. The unit attack anything in range.
Patrol commands the unit to move between two locations and attack anything in range.

Everyone of these commands forces the unit to attack things in range. Alternating between them would therefore not make a difference. Rather you want to alternate between smart command (Default: Right Click) and any one of the above.
brothersadcase
Profile Joined May 2014
11 Posts
May 22 2014 15:11 GMT
#6647
I do feel like patrol could be in a more convenient position, though. Sometimes I use patrol as an alternative to attack move if I'm worried I might hit one of my own guys. Just a passing thought and really probably a matter of preference - I'm sure everyone changes the core a little to their own taste. Sadly I haven't been able to play with R 2.0 as much as I'd like cause I've been too busy. I'm still keeping an eye on the thread though
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
May 23 2014 09:08 GMT
#6648
I want to use rapid fire inject.
What kind of keyboard is available?
fc660m is available and fc660c isn't available.
I don't know why two keyboards is different.
OvO
Ninjury_J
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada408 Posts
May 23 2014 13:23 GMT
#6649
Hey Brook,

You will need a keyboard with N key rollover, which means the keyboard can accept multiple inputs at the same time. There is a video in a OP or on Jak's youtube about it, I think.
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."- Sun Tzu
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 23 2014 14:37 GMT
#6650
@Ninjury
That is not the case. There have been reports of keyboards not doing this dispite having N key rollover. You have to test the keyboard.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Ninjury_J
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada408 Posts
May 23 2014 14:41 GMT
#6651
Oh, my bad. Thanks jak.
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."- Sun Tzu
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
May 23 2014 14:46 GMT
#6652
Ninjury_J
My keyboard is k8000u. It is able to accept 12 multiple inputs at the same time.
When I press asdf at he same time.
asdffffffffffffffffffffffffff
asdffffffffffffffffffffffffff
asdffffffffffffffffffffffff
asdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf, it sometimes occurs, but it doesn't work in the game.

My keyboard's specifications are

- N Key Roll Over Function(Protect Ghost Key)
- Ergonomics Key Touch
- Multi-Language Available
- Detachable Plastic Palm-Rest & Key Skin: Optional
- Size(LxWxH) : 460*152*30mm
- Button No. : 104~106 Keys
- Cable length : 1800mm
OvO
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
May 23 2014 14:59 GMT
#6653
Can you recommend Mechanical Keyboard that is able to use rapid fire inject?
OvO
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 23 2014 15:24 GMT
#6654
Anything by Das
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
McMatus
Profile Joined February 2013
Austria17 Posts
May 23 2014 18:32 GMT
#6655
I've got the Razer Tournament Edition and its really good, doesnt cost too much and has evrything u need + its really compact and you get a nice bag for transport
brothersadcase
Profile Joined May 2014
11 Posts
May 23 2014 18:36 GMT
#6656
Any mechanical by anyone, to be honest, Brook. Most mechanical keyboards have at least 6 key rollover - my Blackwidow TE has 10, which is obviously more than you'd ever need. You don't even need a mechanical keyboard to get multiple key rollover - a few rubber-domes use fancy wiring to achieve the same effect.

One good thing about Razer is Synapse is pretty good, so you can do things like map the app key to alt, which is what I've been doing. One of the best programmable keyboards is the Poker 2, though it's a 60% - i.e., it's got no number pad or directional keys. I'm pretty sure that most keyboards made by KTB are fully programmable, though I might be wrong about that. What I mean by 'fully programmable' is it beats Razer because you can program macros (or whatever) to key combos, not just single key presses. Example: you could make ctrl+f execute alskdjfgiq3[9u - or just n or F5 or whatever. Also, lol, you could make a macro that did rapid-fire inject but that would be cheaty and you wouldn't need any particular keyboard to do it - you could just use autohotkey.

Places to go to find out about mechanical keyboards: /r/mechanicalkeyboards, deskthority and geekhack.

About Leopold's fc660m and fc660c - the difference is the kind of switches. The M model uses Cherries, which is what nearly every mechanical keyboard uses. Advantages of Cherries - they're the most common, so they're easy to replace, they come in all sorts of different types (clicky, non-clicky - and different weights). The fc660c uses Topres, which are actually kind of like a rubber-dome, but it uses as fancy trick to make it so you don't have to 'bottom out', i.e., depress the key entirely to 'actuate' it. Advantages of them: apparently they're better than sex, food and taking a good dump at the same time. Disadvantages: they're rare and expensive, hard to replace and in the end, it's just a keyboard.

Having said this, I WILL buy the fc660c! Because I am a fucking nerd and I have to know. And you know, what, I bet they'll be great. Also, I like the design of the keyboard. Luckily for me, I'm dirt poor-right now, so won't buy one for a while.

One thing to note about NKR is you need a PS/2 slot in your computer and you might not have one. Most modern computers don't have them.
R05
Profile Joined April 2014
Canada47 Posts
May 23 2014 19:18 GMT
#6657
Is it normal that my 2.0 zerg layout had "Base Camera" set to "F10" and "Shift+/" when i downloaded it.
Shouldnt it be set to "=" like it is shown on the core master spreadsheet?

Thanks.

Illuminati101
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru21 Posts
May 23 2014 20:36 GMT
#6658
Where can i find TRM 2.0 plz i would love to hop into 2.0 right now thanks
R05
Profile Joined April 2014
Canada47 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 20:47:19
May 23 2014 20:45 GMT
#6659
I think theres only Random and Zerg layouts so far.
Ninjury_J
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada408 Posts
May 23 2014 21:32 GMT
#6660
R05 is right, Terran and Protoss are not complete yet.

I'm not sure why the base camera is not =, I'll ask Jak to look into it right away. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."- Sun Tzu
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