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SpoogeCoffer
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand51 Posts
June 22 2013 03:17 GMT
#4901
On June 22 2013 02:39 Smackzilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 00:36 JaKaTaK wrote:
Zerg layout has an extra ability key (select larva, fungal and such) where the P and T have a CG. This is because with zerg, you do not have a tap that goes between 2 macro CGs. You check larva. Also because larva have 11 fucking abilities and making ultralisk as close as we can is a priority.


Have you guys ever considered layering the larva abilities, i.e. having some of the units need a shift modifier? I haven't thought this through and know nothing about zerg, so I have no idea how dumb an idea that is. Just curious.


Yeah things like ultras being on y is pretty out of the way (I use the random layout), I know we currently have the ctrl+j and i set for freecam recall but if we were to instead make like ctrl+j be ultra then that would be good. It should have to be a ctrl modifier and not a shift modifier because the next action is going to be ctrl+group. I say ctrl+j purely because ultra/ling is pretty common and so you'd hold j then press ctrl and keep holding j then tap - (or whatever ctrl group for melee and click the eggs if neccesary before hand) then release ctrl.

Though obviously it doesn't have to be the same key as lings it's just nice that way, we could keep free cams as they are and just set ultra to be ctrl+k or whatever the next ranked key after j and i is.
Ninjury_J
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada408 Posts
June 22 2013 04:53 GMT
#4902
@Spooge,

Modifiers unfortunately do not work with abilities.
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."- Sun Tzu
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 12:54:47
June 22 2013 12:51 GMT
#4903
Hey everyone, I want to direct everyone over to TheStaircase Thread. We've encountered an interesting puzzle that I'm sure a lot of people who post in this thread would have a fun time attempting to crack. I could really use some more people on this one, any help is greatly appreciated (just make sure you post on that thread and not this one please).
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Illuminati101
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru21 Posts
June 22 2013 20:00 GMT
#4904
PLz help me im using the core version 7 but nnow i wanted to try the latest one, i went to GITHUB and looked for my TRM but then i dont know what to do with the list of all the commands. plz some one help me out thanks
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 22 2013 20:28 GMT
#4905
Its easier to download from the skydrive IMO, the latest version is there as well. The first video in the quick start guide will show you how.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Grimmid
Profile Joined October 2011
Romania4 Posts
June 22 2013 22:55 GMT
#4906
After one year with thecore and about 3-4 month of using darkgrid(I think that was the name) I'm switching back to standard layout. Why? Just because it will not affect my skill and i like more to move my hand on keyboard. I have to thanks Jak and the creator of darkgrid for this 2 awsome hotkeys layouts, I learned so much from them about mechanics and how it should look a perfect control group setup for every race. I started from silver-gold with darkgrid and now i'm mid master with thecore. In my opinion if you are a bad player(like me) you should try thecore, you will improve alot. You will start to using camera hotkeys, your hands and wrist will not be tired after 5-6+hours of gaming and your micro will be so much better.
Thanks again! and sorry for my bad english.
astazha
Profile Joined June 2013
United States29 Posts
June 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#4907
Installed The Core this morning, and I just had to create an account here on TL so I could come give its creators some appreciation. This is brilliant. I will need much more practice to master it, but this is so obviously better than the standard layout that I already know I'm sticking with it, no matter how inept with it I am at the moment. There's no way I'm going back to all that awkward reaching and fighting with terrible key combinations instead of learning this.

To everyone who has contributed: thank you. It's great. The thought put into it really shows.
All hail the Overgoat!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 22 2013 23:59 GMT
#4908
thanks very much to both of you
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
sixilli
Profile Joined April 2013
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 00:27:11
June 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#4909
Guys I beat a GM in a 2v2 using the core :D 0 cheese was used.
phiRa
Profile Joined March 2012
United States35 Posts
June 23 2013 09:10 GMT
#4910
Hi, I'm getting back into SC2. I stopped playing for a bit before HOTS came out. Figured if I were to switch to a new key layout, this would be a good time. Should I do it before I play the HOTS campaign... or after? Are there conflicts when playing campaign??
azurespace
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)39 Posts
June 23 2013 10:14 GMT
#4911
I think faster access to camera location keys is one of the most important aspect that good hotkey schemes should have. I'm not sure that the layered hotkeys TheCore uses is an effieicient way...
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
June 23 2013 11:09 GMT
#4912
On June 23 2013 18:10 phiRa wrote:
Hi, I'm getting back into SC2. I stopped playing for a bit before HOTS came out. Figured if I were to switch to a new key layout, this would be a good time. Should I do it before I play the HOTS campaign... or after? Are there conflicts when playing campaign??

Play the HOTS campaign with TheCore! It'll help you get a sense of what the layout is like before you try to use it in the real leagues, and thanks to the incredible work of SixtustheFifth, TheCore is pretty much completely compatible with the campaign!
jjakji fan
Ninjury_J
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada408 Posts
June 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#4913
@azurespace,

Do you have any evidence or arguments to support that claim? If so, I'd love to hear them Do you have any suggestions?
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."- Sun Tzu
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 23 2013 14:01 GMT
#4914
On June 23 2013 20:09 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 18:10 phiRa wrote:
Hi, I'm getting back into SC2. I stopped playing for a bit before HOTS came out. Figured if I were to switch to a new key layout, this would be a good time. Should I do it before I play the HOTS campaign... or after? Are there conflicts when playing campaign??

Play the HOTS campaign with TheCore! It'll help you get a sense of what the layout is like before you try to use it in the real leagues, and thanks to the incredible work of SixtustheFifth, TheCore is pretty much completely compatible with the campaign!

The HotS campaign was difficult for me to say the least with TRM. I couldn't even beat the final mission on brutal. :<

Although I guess it wasn't helped by the fact that I didn't have Brood Lords on a mission with limited resources.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
June 23 2013 16:44 GMT
#4915
On June 23 2013 23:01 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 20:09 slowbacontron wrote:
On June 23 2013 18:10 phiRa wrote:
Hi, I'm getting back into SC2. I stopped playing for a bit before HOTS came out. Figured if I were to switch to a new key layout, this would be a good time. Should I do it before I play the HOTS campaign... or after? Are there conflicts when playing campaign??

Play the HOTS campaign with TheCore! It'll help you get a sense of what the layout is like before you try to use it in the real leagues, and thanks to the incredible work of SixtustheFifth, TheCore is pretty much completely compatible with the campaign!

The HotS campaign was difficult for me to say the least with TRM. I couldn't even beat the final mission on brutal. :<

Although I guess it wasn't helped by the fact that I didn't have Brood Lords on a mission with limited resources.

Hmm, that's unfortunate. (I don't have HOTS so I don't actually know anything) I still wouldn't think being on Standard is a great idea, but if the layout for campaign isn't optimal right now, maybe it could just depend on preference.
jjakji fan
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 23 2013 16:53 GMT
#4916
It's so much Zerg that I would definitely recommend temporarily switching to a Zerg layout temporarily while playing the campaign.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 23 2013 17:40 GMT
#4917
On June 23 2013 23:01 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 20:09 slowbacontron wrote:
On June 23 2013 18:10 phiRa wrote:
Hi, I'm getting back into SC2. I stopped playing for a bit before HOTS came out. Figured if I were to switch to a new key layout, this would be a good time. Should I do it before I play the HOTS campaign... or after? Are there conflicts when playing campaign??

Play the HOTS campaign with TheCore! It'll help you get a sense of what the layout is like before you try to use it in the real leagues, and thanks to the incredible work of SixtustheFifth, TheCore is pretty much completely compatible with the campaign!

The HotS campaign was difficult for me to say the least with TRM. I couldn't even beat the final mission on brutal. :<

Although I guess it wasn't helped by the fact that I didn't have Brood Lords on a mission with limited resources.


Roach Hydra + Attack Move = Victory for every level you can use roaches and hydras (I got them right away). I beat the campaign with they same layout you are using very easily. I don't think your experience was a result of using TRM. Also, using a zerg layout for the HotS campaign and then switching back to TRM would be a serious mind fuck and probably do more harm than good IMO.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Finn_
Profile Joined April 2012
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 21:06:48
June 23 2013 20:51 GMT
#4918


User was warned for this post
yay i love stream
Thunderflesh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States382 Posts
June 23 2013 21:01 GMT
#4919
On June 24 2013 02:40 JaKaTaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 23:01 Antylamon wrote:
On June 23 2013 20:09 slowbacontron wrote:
On June 23 2013 18:10 phiRa wrote:
Hi, I'm getting back into SC2. I stopped playing for a bit before HOTS came out. Figured if I were to switch to a new key layout, this would be a good time. Should I do it before I play the HOTS campaign... or after? Are there conflicts when playing campaign??

Play the HOTS campaign with TheCore! It'll help you get a sense of what the layout is like before you try to use it in the real leagues, and thanks to the incredible work of SixtustheFifth, TheCore is pretty much completely compatible with the campaign!

The HotS campaign was difficult for me to say the least with TRM. I couldn't even beat the final mission on brutal. :<

Although I guess it wasn't helped by the fact that I didn't have Brood Lords on a mission with limited resources.


Roach Hydra + Attack Move = Victory for every level you can use roaches and hydras (I got them right away). I beat the campaign with they same layout you are using very easily. I don't think your experience was a result of using TRM. Also, using a zerg layout for the HotS campaign and then switching back to TRM would be a serious mind fuck and probably do more harm than good IMO.


+1, I played the whole HotS campaign on brutal with TRL and it worked fine.
You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.
fengshaun
Profile Joined April 2012
149 Posts
June 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#4920
Anyone know what Finn_ said that he got banned?
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