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uoeahtns
Profile Joined February 2012
52 Posts
June 03 2012 00:07 GMT
#21
Have you guys considered using scroll up and scroll down for mouse hotkeys? While they might not be as functional as the other mouse buttons, I've found them great as harass hotkeys due to the fact that it is so much easier to scroll two clicks than to double tap a button on the keyboard.
ksert
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany7 Posts
June 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#22
it took me a little (!) bit of time to adjust the layout to my german keyboard. is there soon gonna be a layout releasing for qwertz keyboards?
BadgKat
Profile Joined June 2011
United States156 Posts
June 03 2012 00:22 GMT
#23
On June 03 2012 08:15 JaKaTaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 08:13 BadgKat wrote:
I've been using a heavily modified standard for a while now. I'M going to give this a shot tonight and see how it feels. I've been Really exited to see how this would work for me. So much announcement of announcementing I wasn't sure how much longer i could take the hype


Its going to be a weird at first, but having the shift key under my thumb feels soooo good now that I am used to it. GL HF

The hardest part for me is that I've gotten so used to spamming ring(q)-middle(w)-index(e)-index(r) that I'm not really sure how to deal with ring-middle spamming. I might put this on hold for a little while.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
June 03 2012 00:23 GMT
#24
A quick idea, how about you make the main menu button ALT+N instead of F9; so that when you need to surrender, instead of hitting F9 then N, you can just hold ALT then hit NN. This is what I do with my normal hotkey setup (my secondary hotkey for the menu is ALT+Q, so you can ALT+QQ out of custom games--because custom games have a quit instead of surrender.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
bgalang92
Profile Joined February 2011
United States155 Posts
June 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#25
On June 03 2012 09:23 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
A quick idea, how about you make the main menu button ALT+N instead of F9; so that when you need to surrender, instead of hitting F9 then N, you can just hold ALT then hit NN. This is what I do with my normal hotkey setup (my secondary hotkey for the menu is ALT+Q, so you can ALT+QQ out of custom games--because custom games have a quit instead of surrender.


The idea of optimizing the "gg" is hilarious. We should make quitting a game so difficult we have no choice but to win.
IlK
Profile Joined May 2012
18 Posts
June 03 2012 01:01 GMT
#26
Nice first release, the only thing im gonna change for me is j with h i guess and then give it a quick try tomorrow
For the qwertz shit ill just use one of my keyboards with english layout+english at win7...im in NO mood to change all those keys atm and im in no mood to code a script for it, but since uv got urself sombody that can code he can do it in 30minutes and then u can go over all your 48layouts to change for different keyboard-layouts
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#27
On June 03 2012 08:45 7Sevii wrote:
I am having some trouble finding the accounts folder on my mac. Could someone write how to load the file on a mac?


Thanks!!

Macintosh HD (or whatever your hard drive is called)
Users
[username]
Library
Application Support
Blizzard
Starcraft II
Accounts

Assuming you have more than one folder in Accounts:
Try one, then open the folder with letters, numbers, and dashes. Then check its replays, and see if your replays are there. If it has your replays, then that's the account you want to use. If not, go back to the accounts folder and try the next number. Alternatively, if you created a dummy profile like JaKaTaK showed in the video, after opening an account folder, open the hotkeys folder, and see if the profile is there. If so, then that is the correct account.

After this, open the folder for the correct account, then the hotkeys folder. Put the download file in this folder.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask!
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 01:53:18
June 03 2012 01:50 GMT
#28
Nice job, I'll give it an honest shot though im not digging using right half of keyboard and having to move the keyboard and chair in my case (small desk) to get into comfy position to play sc2; and having to reverse it for everything else.
If this doesn't work out I'll probably go back to trying to learn original Jakatak. I know there's a difference between the two, but do you think there's a really large difference or the original layout is pretty close to this, just not fully optimized?

Or perhaps would I be better off trying to transfer this layout to the left side of they keyboard as much as I can instead of using the original Jakatak?
Thanks in advance
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theolysis
Profile Joined May 2012
United States107 Posts
June 03 2012 02:55 GMT
#29
This would probably work better for me if I wasn't using a Zowie Celeritas. The right shift key is ridiculously small, and I'd have to pop off the right ctrl to really have easy access to it with my thumb.
"You will be the penis."
Alacar
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
June 03 2012 05:58 GMT
#30
How do you inject with this layout?
herrcombs
Profile Joined May 2012
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 06:37:19
June 03 2012 06:18 GMT
#31
I've been playing around with this layout today (righty no mouse), and while it feels completely foreign to what I'm used to, I think it has great potential. Can't wait until it feels a little more familiar.

Alacar, I also play Zerg, and injecting isn't too difficult although it takes a bit to get used to: first set camera locations for each hatchery using the map location hotkeys (set using alt + I, J, K, N, M). All queens are hotkeyed to O. When you want to inject, hit O to select queens, then ctrl-I to jump to your first hatch, hit I to inject, left click on hatch 1, ctrl-J, I, click on hatch 2, ctrl-K, I, click on hatch 3, and so on.

Also, I would like to say that having each hatch on a camera location is pretty awesome in terms of maintaining proper drone saturation, researching upgrades, reacting to attacks, etc etc. This new layout offers a TON of control over your units and bases, I cannot emphasize that enough.

EDIT: I typed a few wrong keys in there for the inject method. Alt sets the camera locations, while Ctrl jumps to them.
7Sevii
Profile Joined September 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 07:56:44
June 03 2012 06:38 GMT
#32
On June 03 2012 10:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 08:45 7Sevii wrote:
I am having some trouble finding the accounts folder on my mac. Could someone write how to load the file on a mac?


Thanks!!

Macintosh HD (or whatever your hard drive is called)
Users
[username]
Library
Application Support
Blizzard
Starcraft II
Accounts

Assuming you have more than one folder in Accounts:
Try one, then open the folder with letters, numbers, and dashes. Then check its replays, and see if your replays are there. If it has your replays, then that's the account you want to use. If not, go back to the accounts folder and try the next number. Alternatively, if you created a dummy profile like JaKaTaK showed in the video, after opening an account folder, open the hotkeys folder, and see if the profile is there. If so, then that is the correct account.

After this, open the folder for the correct account, then the hotkeys folder. Put the download file in this folder.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask!


My problem is that I do not have a "Accounts" folder in my blizzard folder. And my "Blizzard" folder is in the shared folder not application support. I deleted everything SC2 and am patching my reinstall right now.

Edit: I am deleting everything again and reinstalling sc2
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
June 03 2012 08:18 GMT
#33
The chrono took a while to get use to, one thing I found frustrating is when I select a hotkey group by mistake, and build a unit when I meant to make the army attack click, or attack click a building when I meant to chrono it. Also the build hotkey and the shift key too close makes chaining different buildings in a shift sequence too difficult. The thumb has to switch between them too often. And when I do build a unit by mistake the cancel hotkey is off on f5.

Suggestions: move the esc hotkey closer, put the 'w' or 'select warpgate' hotkey in a more convenient location. 6 is very ackward and out of the way. move the build key up one. (Will allow me to hold shift the entire time i build a pylon-nexus-pylon in the scenario where I would take a third/fourth/etc
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10362 Posts
June 03 2012 08:55 GMT
#34
Wow, you said you were dedicating your time to starcraft and you already have such good work done.

Thank you for sharing!
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Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 09:03:35
June 03 2012 09:01 GMT
#35
On June 03 2012 07:48 JaKaTaK wrote:
Our plan is to eventually have 48 different versions so that each person can pick the one that is right for them :D



looking forward for it! Thanks sir :D
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 03 2012 09:08 GMT
#36
Looks really nice , don't have time yet but will give it shot soon.
It's good to be back
kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
June 03 2012 10:02 GMT
#37
So this is going to go like:

Dvorak > Qwerty

The Core > Grid > Standard > Classic
?

http://www.cracked.com/article_19151_5-bad-ideas-humanity-sticking-with-out-habit.html

:D
It's all about the journey, not the outcome.
Fogetaboudit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States232 Posts
June 03 2012 10:11 GMT
#38
having a lot of trouble with my index finger, keep quitting out of frustration. Determined to get it soon.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 10:43:57
June 03 2012 10:34 GMT
#39
Oh my god, it's finally released. I'm so downloading this and training my TvZ build in Yabot until I can hit max in 14 minutes while breaking that up with bits of random micro challenge and micro tournament.

Although, wouldn't it be hard to spam hotkeys when both your CC and all your Production are on the mouse? I mean, you can spam army and harass hotkeys too, but Production and your CC are the ones you kindof need to spam, if you know what I mean.

EDIT: I love the video. Do I still have to take out the windows key if I have a gaming keyboard that has a little switch to disable it? I like how it looks and don't want it to look deformed.
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bgalang92
Profile Joined February 2011
United States155 Posts
June 03 2012 10:43 GMT
#40
Been practicing for a few hours, starting to be able to build stuff normally, but my expansion shift queue of buildings is still pretty slow.

I'm having a lot of trouble accurately hitting my control groups around my macro key, but I'm getting there =D

JaKaTaK, I'm just wondering, what is the key difference between theCore and the original layout and Darkgrid? Besides the ergonomic factor and key priority that you implemented after starting.
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