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BurgerAce
Profile Joined December 2010
30 Posts
April 28 2012 15:40 GMT
#41
I tried camera hotkeys on F1:F4 when custom hotkeys first became an option. Maybe I'm just super nooby, but I couldn't stand contorting my hand like that.

Now I have camera locations on 123456, and control groups on aqwerty (and attack on space). I only play about an hour a week and my mechanics aren't great, so this really helped me personally.
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
April 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#42
I hotkey my individual queens, so I can go from hatcheries with 55, 66, 77 etc. I could see this being useful for rally points though.
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Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
April 28 2012 16:01 GMT
#43
I've been trying to get used to this. I even use F1-F4 for ease, but past the first few minutes other things steal attention. For one, it's so natural to just double-tap 4 for my command center. If I get attacked, I just tap space which is where my thumb is always resting anyways and it takes me to wherever the alert is coming from.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 28 2012 16:05 GMT
#44
when i played zerg for a while i put the "base camera" on space bar to do the backspace inject method easily. now that i play terran though i still use it to quickly jump between bases when macroing, just a thought, especially cuz it can save you a couple of screen hotkeys for different locations.
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awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
April 28 2012 16:13 GMT
#45
On April 28 2012 11:55 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Coming from a hardcore BW background, screen hotkeys are a MUST for efficient play.

F1 for main cc/nexus/hatchery, F2 for natural, F3 for rally point/ramps, F4 for enemy base then F5-f8 for additional expansions.

I'm pretty sure SC2gears registers screen hotkeys usage towards your APM, because I only average about 120APM (sc2 time) in SC2 but usually over 260APM in SC2gears.


I think I'll switch my camera set-up to this. Camera hotkeys are practically a must for jumping between a fight and and a proxy pylon to warp reinforcements.
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
April 28 2012 16:25 GMT
#46
I've been having these for months and steadily I started to use them more often, I think they greatly increase how fast I can macro while doing other things compared to before I started using them.

Things like f2 select workers f3 select workers f4 sent workers to your third in a matter of seconds is too awesome not to use. It's like the switch town center button, but actually accurate and faster.
lazyo
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany90 Posts
April 28 2012 18:27 GMT
#47
I can only recommend doing this. Ideally you want to use f1-f6 for bases and bind 2 locations to other keys or mouse buttons (for proxy pylons, opponent's base etc.) . I recently started to check my worker saturations every minute or so and that is so easy with your screen location centered on the mineral line. You wouldn't believe how much difference it makes to have exactly 18/6 per base espcially when you are playing a 2base allin.
Chronoboosting is also at least twice as fast with screen locations, even more if your tech is spread. On a related note concerning playing faster as toss I recommend you use a 3rd party software to bind left click on your mousewheel so you can do those 20 gateway warpins in lategame at over twice the speed.
SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
April 28 2012 18:35 GMT
#48
Why stop at F2-F4? I'm trying to incorporate using the entire Fkey set until F8. You can pretty much hotey all your bases/pylons/reinforcing points/rally point of your opponent when you have an obs over there...it takes a lot of practise, but i think it's what we should aim to.
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LazinCajun
Profile Joined July 2011
United States294 Posts
April 28 2012 20:02 GMT
#49
I'd like to point out one more use that I haven't seen mentioned as a zerg. On maps like TDA, cloud kingdom, korhal, etc. where you can place an overlord near your opponent's front, I like to put a camera key centered on that location to quickly check the front / gasses as I macro. I find it very helpful!
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 20:29:41
April 28 2012 20:28 GMT
#50
I really promote the use of camera hotkeys. They save you so much time and when you get used to them its so helpful. It really only takes a few games to get used to it too!

I personally use a weird setup I guess? My camera hotkeys are x-c-v-b-n-m All expansions usually, but I have z as a quick save it doesn't require shift to save and I just press spacebar and I'm back there. I love it because I can be dropping and save the drop location just by hitting z press c drop mules spacebar back to microing the drop if needed. I want it mainly for battles as I usually add units to control groups soon after they finish and when I double tap it takes me to some units walking over. The problem is its hard to remember to do it when you are in battle ;_;.

When I played Zerg I loved it for injects, it was just so fast and smooth to check all bases even in the late game. I 10000% recommend using camera keys.
LazinCajun
Profile Joined July 2011
United States294 Posts
April 28 2012 20:30 GMT
#51
A question for the zergs who hotkey 1 hatchery per control group -- do you use base camera keys or rely on double tapping your hatcheries? Just curious.
TechnoSchaman
Profile Joined October 2010
United States156 Posts
April 28 2012 21:00 GMT
#52
Just started geting into using F3 and F4 for my natural and main and having trouble hitting it and getting my hand back into position to hit 1 and A or 2A depending on army comp. makes me nervous to move my hand that much but this is still obviously the way to improve multitasking. cool guide Alej xD

One little tip for protoss that I've suggested to a lot people is setting your first camera scree hotkey as Q, and always using that as your pylon screen. Whenever I'm about to attack, i Control+Q in between my army and pylon where i can still see the edge of the pylon ring. This allows for quick Q -> W warp ins with absurd ease. Compared to screen scrolling or doing F2-F4 for one of them, Q is right next to W so for instance if i want 4 stalkers, I simply hit QWSSSS with very little movement of my hand. This has helped me tremendously, and i hope it can help others.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 29 2012 04:26 GMT
#53
Yep I only advocated using hotkeys for the bases as a jumping off point :D
Using a screen hotkey for warp-ins as toss and rally points as terran (and for zerg as well, for units that you aren't rallying as eggs) saves a lot of time as well. I noticed MC wasn't using a screen hotkey for warp-ins and I thinking herO does the same thing. Both could improve efficiency a little bit with an additional hotkey of course ^^
I'm currently using 3 screen hotkeys for bases and a 4th for warp-ins. I will need to reconfigure my settings a bit to allow a good screen hotkey for my 4th base, or just use my rally screen hotkey for that one, as warp-in hotkeys are not as important once I've got my fourth, and warping in at the fourth is usually appropriate, anyhow.
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belatube
Profile Joined September 2011
United States27 Posts
April 29 2012 05:13 GMT
#54
On April 28 2012 21:09 Salivanth wrote:
Because "Ctrl + F3" and "Ctrl + F4" was just SUPER hard for me to do, I came up with an alternative hotkey setup I think will work very well: F1-F4 for selecting locations, F5-F8 for keybinding locations. Only one key!

What i did was add alternative hotkey to bind the locations. to Shift F1, Shift F2.etc doing that will free up 4 more locations... i have F5 set to front of enemy base. or what ever location im abo ut to pressure.
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dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
April 29 2012 05:15 GMT
#55
How do you view the player POVs in the VOD archives? I have the pass but I don't see where to go.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 29 2012 05:41 GMT
#56
On April 29 2012 14:15 dicedicerevolution wrote:
How do you view the player POVs in the VOD archives? I have the pass but I don't see where to go.

in the mlg arena page each set will have "caster" and then "x pov" and "y pov"
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TechnoSchaman
Profile Joined October 2010
United States156 Posts
April 29 2012 05:47 GMT
#57
alej, do you think the Q screen key I use would work for you? I know artosis used use Tab which i dont agree with cuz tab is too useful but its the same idea,
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 29 2012 06:05 GMT
#58
On April 29 2012 14:47 TechnoSchaman wrote:
alej, do you think the Q screen key I use would work for you? I know artosis used use Tab which i dont agree with cuz tab is too useful but its the same idea,

yes, but i cannot unbind my q key because it is ESSENTIAL for my 4v4 zerg :D
i'll just have to make a second set of hotkeys TT
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dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
April 29 2012 06:36 GMT
#59
On April 29 2012 15:05 Alejandrisha wrote:
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On April 29 2012 14:47 TechnoSchaman wrote:
alej, do you think the Q screen key I use would work for you? I know artosis used use Tab which i dont agree with cuz tab is too useful but its the same idea,

yes, but i cannot unbind my q key because it is ESSENTIAL for my 4v4 zerg :D
i'll just have to make a second set of hotkeys TT


Just switch hotkey profiles when you 4v4, problem solved.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
April 29 2012 06:39 GMT
#60
On April 29 2012 15:05 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 14:47 TechnoSchaman wrote:
alej, do you think the Q screen key I use would work for you? I know artosis used use Tab which i dont agree with cuz tab is too useful but its the same idea,

yes, but i cannot unbind my q key because it is ESSENTIAL for my 4v4 zerg :D
i'll just have to make a second set of hotkeys TT

I unbound my q key to a camera hotkey and use it for rally points

I simply rebound queen to 'a'. I've had no trouble so far =/
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