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On March 31 2013 07:28 Alejandrisha wrote:
lengthy bump, but here's something cool
rebind space bar (or another key that is convenient for you) to center your current selection. this way you don't have to click on the portrait to center the base and then save the screen hotkey. fun stuff!
Ctrl+f centers the camera on the current selection, rather than clicking on the portrait ^_^
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I know WhiteRa does not use this. Every time you have to press an F key you have to reposition your left hand on your main hotkeys, this is too uncomfortable for me. Many pros have so fast and accurate hands that they don't rebind some awkward hotkeys and just use standard ones. So this is not a problem for them.
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Been doing this since I bought Starcraft last September, breaking Masters . [: It'll really help a bunch of people, especially the Zergs (larva injects). I know it helped me a lot. >:D
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Yeah, I don't use mine as zerg. for larvae injects, I just have my back button on my mouse set to cycle through my bases. Select my queens, back-v-click, back-v-click, back-v-click. But the post about creep tumors and using camera keys to set to where they've last spawned seems intriguing.
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On April 30 2013 04:35 mantequilla wrote:
I know WhiteRa does not use this. Every time you have to press an F key you have to reposition your left hand on your main hotkeys, this is too uncomfortable for me. Many pros have so fast and accurate hands that they don't rebind some awkward hotkeys and just use standard ones. So this is not a problem for them.
If you're not comfortable reaching the F keys reliably you can rebind them. I currently have them bound to mouse buttons, so they are not even a reach away
On April 28 2013 19:39 Hyak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 07:28 Alejandrisha wrote:
lengthy bump, but here's something cool
rebind space bar (or another key that is convenient for you) to center your current selection. this way you don't have to click on the portrait to center the base and then save the screen hotkey. fun stuff! Can you not just eyeball it?
I always eyeball it at the start of the game, but once you put a nexus there it's nice for the camera not to jump a few inches between hitting your screen hotkey and double tapping your nexus hotkey
edit: with some bases, you might actually want to have it off centered. for instance, if you have a big natural like akilon, your natural screen hotkey cam might not cover the ramp. totally up to preference, though.
On April 29 2013 13:50 Nox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 17:44 gronnelg wrote:
As a zerg, I set up all base cams (with the F# keys) at the start of the game (or as soon as I know where my opponent is on 4 player maps). For me, it helps me be more efficient with injects, building new bases (since my cam centers on the base, I can place the hatch corretly really fast), build new buildings (tech, gas, defence), maynarding, change worker rally point, worker counting. So far I havent used it for drop and harass defence though. Hopefully I'll get to it.
Although a lot of pros dont use it, from looking at their stream, I can tell that even they would be more efficient with cam keys.
I'm using the change base cam instead. It just cycles through all your bases really fast without having to press every single cam keybind. Using space bar for so just spam the space bar for all the injects. Can be used for all the races but not as consistent as it seems to be random which base is chosen when you press do it.
I warn against using base cam method. you don't have control over where your camera goes as it is just random. while you can bounce from a fight to a base to make buildings like you can with screen hotkeys, assigning unique screen hotkeys for each location is more efficient.
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there are people who still dont use camera hotkeys?
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I don't understand how screenhotkey it's good for z ... we never producre hatch 1 by 1 ... and when we are attacked .. u click on the mini map .. explain to me plz
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On May 01 2013 05:36 genzzz wrote:
I don't understand how screenhotkey it's good for z ... we never producre hatch 1 by 1 ... and when we are attacked .. u click on the mini map .. explain to me plz
maybe read the op.
it can actually be beneficial to produce from individual hatcheries to drone specific mineral lines and gases, instead of having larva from your 3rd turn into drones then rally to the main/nat and vice versa
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On May 01 2013 05:36 genzzz wrote:
I don't understand how screenhotkey it's good for z ... we never producre hatch 1 by 1 ... and when we are attacked .. u click on the mini map .. explain to me plz
Inject. This is how most pros inject. Once you have like 5-6 bases its easier to press f1 click v f2 click v etcetc than to find your queens. Also, if you hotkey your queens/hatch, those can die, camera locations are always there so if terran drops you it wont mess up your injects because u wont need to constantly rebind anything.
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u really think f1 is easy to check ? it's so far from finger man ... and i have big hand
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On March 31 2013 07:28 Alejandrisha wrote:
lengthy bump, but here's something cool
rebind space bar (or another key that is convenient for you) to center your current selection. this way you don't have to click on the portrait to center the base and then save the screen hotkey. fun stuff!
Oh, i read this before and rebound space bar to center on current hotkey selection.. but not for this. I misunderstood, guess i didn't think about this specifically?
I always just double tapped my nexus hotkey to center camera on whatever nexus i put down.
The spacebar to center camera on current selection is GREAT though - it gives you much finer control over the game camera, and extends the mechanical dominance of using a dpi most people would consider low (because they require overly high dpi due to inefficient mechanics)
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On May 01 2013 18:06 genzzz wrote:
u really think f1 is easy to check ? it's so far from finger man ... and i have big hand
When learned it's very easy.
btw
My personal setup:
I set my positions using alt to center around a selection(CC's).
I set the camera hotkeys using ctrl+(q,w,e,a,s,d,f) and g
And I recall using F(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) and space.
I use G and space for rallies/early game walling.
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I just can't play with no screen hotkeys, don't know how people don't use it. F1,F2,F3... are hard to reach? rofl stupid excuse
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Well there are some keyboards that have the F-keys placed quite far from the numbers row. Lucky I don't have that.
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There is no need to use these keys as Terran in my opinion.
by tapping my cc group, i go to my newest base to drop mules there.
by tapping my barracks or my factory group i go to the place where i add new structures.
to defend drops or warpins will have to see to a location i hadnt had in mind when i set a camera location, so this will never help. maybe you could pull your workers faster, but i am fast enough i think.
moreover, you have to make so many actions via minimap that you are fast enough when something unexpected happens.
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On May 01 2013 21:02 graNite wrote:
There is no need to use these keys as Terran in my opinion.
by tapping my cc group, i go to my newest base to drop mules there.
by tapping my barracks or my factory group i go to the place where i add new structures.
to defend drops or warpins will have to see to a location i hadnt had in mind when i set a camera location, so this will never help. maybe you could pull your workers faster, but i am fast enough i think.
moreover, you have to make so many actions via minimap that you are fast enough when something unexpected happens.
You make good points, but I still think camera keys will give you a slight edge. I'm not in the habit of using them myself, but I think it could be worth it for time saved just from for example, being able to send workers from the main and natural to the third. If you watch people do that, it is so much faster than not using camera hotkeys.
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On May 01 2013 21:02 graNite wrote:
There is no need to use these keys as Terran in my opinion.
by tapping my cc group, i go to my newest base to drop mules there.
by tapping my barracks or my factory group i go to the place where i add new structures.
to defend drops or warpins will have to see to a location i hadnt had in mind when i set a camera location, so this will never help. maybe you could pull your workers faster, but i am fast enough i think.
moreover, you have to make so many actions via minimap that you are fast enough when something unexpected happens.
You waste motion constantly clicking on the minimap. And if you double-tap your CGs, you're also wasting time instead of one click.
There's a reason every single Terran pro uses camera hotkeys, go look at Byuns stream sometime.
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On May 01 2013 22:24 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 21:02 graNite wrote:
There is no need to use these keys as Terran in my opinion.
by tapping my cc group, i go to my newest base to drop mules there.
by tapping my barracks or my factory group i go to the place where i add new structures.
to defend drops or warpins will have to see to a location i hadnt had in mind when i set a camera location, so this will never help. maybe you could pull your workers faster, but i am fast enough i think.
moreover, you have to make so many actions via minimap that you are fast enough when something unexpected happens. You waste motion constantly clicking on the minimap. And if you double-tap your CGs, you're also wasting time instead of one click. There's a reason every single Terran pro uses camera hotkeys, go look at Byuns stream sometime.
Indeed these seconds end up being minutes. Sorry but not using camera keys is just inefficient imho. And yh my main is Terran.
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On May 01 2013 22:24 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 21:02 graNite wrote:
There is no need to use these keys as Terran in my opinion.
by tapping my cc group, i go to my newest base to drop mules there.
by tapping my barracks or my factory group i go to the place where i add new structures.
to defend drops or warpins will have to see to a location i hadnt had in mind when i set a camera location, so this will never help. maybe you could pull your workers faster, but i am fast enough i think.
moreover, you have to make so many actions via minimap that you are fast enough when something unexpected happens. You waste motion constantly clicking on the minimap. And if you double-tap your CGs, you're also wasting time instead of one click. There's a reason every single Terran pro uses camera hotkeys, go look at Byuns stream sometime.
That is no argument.
I could also say you waste motion by moving your hand. I like to keep my hand exactly where it is so i just need to move my fingers, not my hand. For me, it is faster that way, I tried it.
There are also pros who use the standard layout with every hotkey spread across the keyboard, do you think you can refer to them, too? A pro player uses screen hotkeys, so everybody should do it? Should everybody use a ruler to set up his keyboard perfectly like Flash?
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