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On May 08 2012 20:41 Alejandrisha wrote:
positively anecdotal evidence here, but my overall ladder WR increased by 12% after screen hotkeys became natural for me, with improvements of at least 6% across all match-ups
if you are not practicing this now, DO IT
Yeah it seems that I am winning a lot more lately after getting used to the screen hotkeys. Very very useful.
f1-idle workers
f2-main
f3-expo
f4-3rd base
I cant get rid of my f1 idle workers habit so i just use f2-f4.
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Honestly I feel like th best way to play Zerg is to use camera hotkeys for two main reasons.
1: Injections, it's an extremely fast + reliable way to inject at every base without having queens run around the map for dumb reasons.
2: Harass is MUCH easier to deal with. I can honestly say I don't think I could deal with 2+ Drops nearly as well if I didn't have my camera hotkeys set up so I could immediately check my bases and move my drones away.
The other reason why I believe camera hotkeys are essential is because it saves the action (and the time) it takes to click the minimap or double tap a hotkey to get somewhere. If you're reacting to harass you want your mouse ready to box and get your drones the heck out of the line of fire, which is slightly faster with camera hotkeys (and let's face it every second counts).
Lastly, I set my camera hotkeys at the start of the game so that I can lay down hatcheries in about a second (camera hotkey to first base, select drone, Camera hotkey to third base, B , H, click <- Is extremely quick to pull off which saves your butt in zvz for example.
Also, I'd like to add that I've seen Dimaga use camera hotkeys on stream so I can atleast 100% confirm that he does.
I don't feel like we're at a point where camera hotkeys are NECESSARY to be a pro-level player atm but I feel like they WILL be in 3-5 years when everyone's play is much much further along!
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or concerns about camera hotkey setups for zerg!
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Thanks! I knew about this but it was great motivational read! On it boss!
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The reason I won't use them and it's a little silly, but this almost encourages you not to look at the minimap. When I go from expansion to expansion, I click the mini map, which, in turn, forces me to analyze it for a split second to look for army movement/drops/etc. I'm sure it's great for people who have good mini map awareness, but I am still working on it.
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On April 28 2012 11:46 NrGmonk wrote:
Do all pros use this? Can you go into your MLG arena vods and check which of the pros do it? That might convince me to start trying it out.
You can tell by watching a replay fairly easily. Just wait for the player to look at his base, when he does, pay attention to if his selection in the bottom mid of the UI changes or not.
From what I have seen, pros for the most part do use these and have done so since beta.
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F1 rally points
F2-main
F3+F4 expansions
F5+ tend to be more flexible ussually important parts of the map (very usfull in tvt with those long tank lines) or expansions, towers
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LastShadow addressed screen capture hotkeys in one of his blogs. He says that if players want to play "like a Korean pro", they have to use their F keys. He uses all 8 of them in every game.
He suggests putting F1-F6 as your bases, starting at your main to your 6th.
He uses F7 for important areas such as opponent's natural or watchtower
And F8 for the Endgame screen (where he believes a max army fight will go down)
He sets up his screen locations at the beginning of every game, spamming them to check if they're correct.
EDIT: There are, in fact, only 8 camera hotkeys, and I have changed my post to reflect that.
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On June 27 2012 14:20 SC2John wrote:
LastShadow addressed screen capture hotkeys in one of his blogs. He says that if players want to play "like a Korean pro", they have to use their F keys. He uses 8-10 of them in every game.
He suggests putting F1-F6 as your bases, starting at your main to your 6th.
F7 and F8 are used for arbitrary things such as harass or watchtowers
He uses F9 for opponent's natural
And F10 for the Endgame screen (where he believes a max army fight will go down)
He sets up his screen locations at the beginning of every game, spamming them to check if they're correct.
Where do you get the extra 2 camera hotkeys from (F9-F10) 0_o?
There are only 8... no?
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On April 28 2012 15:14 NrGmonk wrote:
Players who come from a wc3 background usually don't do this, because location keys macro didn't exist. The keys were used for heroes.
Fixed it for you  .
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It seems like the general use of Screen hotkeys (the method I currently use) is to hotkey bases to transfer probes and instantly view any base harass.
Are there any other uses of screen hotkeys? Is it useful to have a screen hotkey at the front of the enemy base? I'd just like to know more creative uses of this feature.
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I don't know why anyone uses edge scroll as opposed to screen drag with centre mouse (scroller) button anyway.
so muich better not having to move your mouse cursor all the way to the edge of the screen and back again.
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I personally use my numpad on the right side of my keyboard. I don't know how you southpaws can do it, but I do think that it does help me. I prefer to use 1-4 for my bases, and #5 for super specific camera locations such as rally points.
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On June 27 2012 14:34 rufflesQueso wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 14:20 SC2John wrote:
LastShadow addressed screen capture hotkeys in one of his blogs. He says that if players want to play "like a Korean pro", they have to use their F keys. He uses 8-10 of them in every game.
He suggests putting F1-F6 as your bases, starting at your main to your 6th.
F7 and F8 are used for arbitrary things such as harass or watchtowers
He uses F9 for opponent's natural
And F10 for the Endgame screen (where he believes a max army fight will go down)
He sets up his screen locations at the beginning of every game, spamming them to check if they're correct. Where do you get the extra 2 camera hotkeys from (F9-F10) 0_o? There are only 8... no?
This must depend on your keyboard. I have the Razer Blackwidow and I have F1-12.
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Sadly a lot of pros don't use screen hotkeys. I bet you DayNine cringes every time he sees them scrolling like mad men
I started a while back and my mechanics have finally improved to the level that I wanted them to be ^^
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Most of the Korean pro's do it, for some reason i don't see foreigners doing it as much, you can get used to this sort of thing very fast and it will improve everything from macro to micro.
I do it BW style shift+f key to make, f1-f5 to go there.
Wanna get good? Use camera hotkeys, you need them for every race.
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Wait.. you guys don't use this???? Mind blown. This was one of the first hotkeys I changed in SC2. (And patrol to Q. I'm done patrolling glitching vultures my moving my hand across the darn keyboard.)
That and binding [W] & Shift+[W] to something useful. (I use it as my rally location hotkey)
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On June 27 2012 21:42 shadogi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 14:34 rufflesQueso wrote:On June 27 2012 14:20 SC2John wrote:
LastShadow addressed screen capture hotkeys in one of his blogs. He says that if players want to play "like a Korean pro", they have to use their F keys. He uses 8-10 of them in every game.
He suggests putting F1-F6 as your bases, starting at your main to your 6th.
F7 and F8 are used for arbitrary things such as harass or watchtowers
He uses F9 for opponent's natural
And F10 for the Endgame screen (where he believes a max army fight will go down)
He sets up his screen locations at the beginning of every game, spamming them to check if they're correct. Where do you get the extra 2 camera hotkeys from (F9-F10) 0_o? There are only 8... no? This must depend on your keyboard. I have the Razer Blackwidow and I have F1-12.
I don't think it depends on your keyboard, there are literally only 8 camera location hotkeys available under the hotkeys menu O_O
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On April 28 2012 21:09 Salivanth wrote:
Because "Ctrl + F3" and "Ctrl + F4" was just SUPER hard for me to do, I came up with an alternative hotkey setup I think will work very well: F1-F4 for selecting locations, F5-F8 for keybinding locations. Only one key!
I personally use alt+1, alt+2, etc. to bind screens, since my hand span is very small. (A-L with force)
I think Day[9] talked about this in his mechanics daily. For everyone wanting additional information/inspiration.
http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-252-secrets-of-hotkeys-apm-and-mouse-movement-4730506
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BUMP
A REMINDER TO DO THIS.
NOW
DO IT
OK
BYE
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Is it illegal in tornuments to have custom hotkey setups as long as they can be used on any standard keyboard?
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