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As for the 1/1/1 tank push, the bunker is vital. Bunkers give marines enough range to kill banshees.
Filter, could you elaborate on this point? do you mean you build bunkers near mineral lines or just that if the banshee joins the attack up front the bunkered marines can return fire so the banshee doesn't get free hits?
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On May 16 2012 15:08 enanoretozon wrote:Show nested quote + As for the 1/1/1 tank push, the bunker is vital. Bunkers give marines enough range to kill banshees.
Filter, could you elaborate on this point? do you mean you build bunkers near mineral lines or just that if the banshee joins the attack up front the bunkered marines can return fire so the banshee doesn't get free hits?
I think he might mean that if marines range is inferior to banshees then banshee can effectively kite marines into tank fire without taking damage. Not sure though, seems logical.
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This guide is the holy grail for people who want to learn Terran. I'm plat toss who trying to overcome horrendous PvP and finally get into diamond, i'm experimenting with Terran and with the silver (!!) benchmarks I was able to take down an offracing master.
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I must say that I am very impressed with this guide and it has made me equally as good as my zerg which was my best. BTW I'm bronze, so that means absolutely nothing! That said, I am very greatful for this post. I've been getting a lot of BM from this. This series showed me how to play the game the right way. I know what bad macro is now AND good timing and the game has actually slowed down and become less random.
That said I do have to cut corners. My macro AND micro isn't good enough to get 112-117 at 10 and 52 scvs like i see in your vids, and sometimes i'm very late against colossi with them popping up in time so i have to micro a bit and make vikings. No biggie though right? Attack moving and winning is a sign of good macro right? Should I just A move my way out of bronze ? I feel I need to micro and stim.
Quick question though: is it a good idea to have at least 1 scv on the bunker? I'm asking because sometimes they come in at 7 or 8:00 focus fire my bunker and totally bust my butt.
I can get to 100 food and 49-51 scvs at 10. I feel I'm on my way out from bronze. Thanks a lot filter.
I'm mostly happy at my BMPG (Bad manners per game) rate most of all.
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I was bronze about 4 months ago and watched these layers of OPness :D i practiced 2 days against computer and got placed today to platin :D
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I don't really know where else to write this, since I'm using filters TvZ build. It's the one with the double techlab marauder hellion push. Today, i played this top 8 diamond (I'm in platinum) Zerg who took his 3rd at 6 minutes and therefore had it up and running by 8 min. How could I punish/pressure this?
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I had a game against a plat zerg who did the same fast third after scouting the no-gas expand (or at least I assume that's what motivated it)
I ended up pushing out with marine/marauder prior to medivacs and killed the third. I am not sure how reliably that plan will work but my guess at the time was that with such a fast third, pushing earlier (before the extra production from the third hatch kicks in, and assuming he was probably droning pretty hard) was very likely to do damage, but the normal timing might be a little late and I'd end up behind both economically and in tech
It worked in that game at least.
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I am looking forward to improving my play style. Thank you for posting and for the direction. I will work on these step by step.
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Thanks for the videos! Really cool!
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Thank you filter, this series has helped me improve more quickly than before, and break through a personal plateau in my play that I've been frustrated with. It's world class content.
I love the way you filter out the noise and focus on the most essential information, it's really quite amazing.
And so effective, my last game was against a high diamond, I'm in gold and I won, what's next, masters? 
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So I stumble on this guide last week and even though I'm a zerg player, I'm hooked and watched the first two episodes. Kept thinking, this is great, wish he did something like this for zerg. So I skim through the thread, seeing other posters wonder what type of benchmarks could be applied to zerg. Decided to leave and would come back later to see if anyone posted anything.
Come back to the thread today and find out Filter is going to do one for zerg..."oh yeah!!!". Get to page 20 and see that it has already been done..."holy smokes!". Some I'm only a couple minutes into it right now but just had to come in to say 'Thanks!!!!" Now back to the episode 1...
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On May 16 2012 19:40 Schaudenfraud wrote: [...]
That said I do have to cut corners. My macro AND micro isn't good enough to get 112-117 at 10 and 52 scvs like i see in your vids, and sometimes i'm very late against colossi with them popping up in time so i have to micro a bit and make vikings. No biggie though right? Attack moving and winning is a sign of good macro right? Should I just A move my way out of bronze ? I feel I need to micro and stim.
If you feel you need to micro and stim, then do it. Of course that is very viable. The "don't micro at all" stuff should not be interpreted as a law in this style of play. It is meant to ensure that you put enough effort in your macro! If you are able to macro while stimming / microing, you're on the way to becoming even better, as that is the ultimate goal.
Quick question though: is it a good idea to have at least 1 scv on the bunker? I'm asking because sometimes they come in at 7 or 8:00 focus fire my bunker and totally bust my butt.
How far have you watched the video series? Try to watch the minimap every few seconds. As soon as you see enemy dots advancing towards your base, it is very viable to pull some SCVs from your mineral line. I'd suggest more than one, because the more SCVs repair at the same time, the longer it takes for your foe to take down the bunker.
Basically: Do not have an idle SCV sit behind your bunker the whole game. When you see an attack, quickly move some over to repair. After repelling the attack, move them back to your minerals.
This takes a few tries to get used to and be quick enough, but you'll see it works eventually.
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Hi, again Filter!
Got seroius trouble defending 1base marine+2siege tank push in Cloud Kingdom.Not even pulling workers.He just siege one tank between rocks and wall and the other one down with marines in front.If i got bunker,tanks kill it.And SCVs cant reach siege tanks.Can u make some videos defending this or maybe upload replays?
Thank u very much for everything u do for us to help us...
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On May 18 2012 17:35 Dvriel wrote: Hi, again Filter!
Got seroius trouble defending 1base marine+2siege tank push in Cloud Kingdom.Not even pulling workers.He just siege one tank between rocks and wall and the other one down with marines in front.If i got bunker,tanks kill it.And SCVs cant reach siege tanks.Can u make some videos defending this or maybe upload replays?
Thank u very much for everything u do for us to help us...
All questions doesn't need to go into this thread. This is something that, with replays, should go into either the Terran help me, Simple questions, or a dedicated [H] thread.
That doesn't just go for this question, but I feel it goes for most "Hey Filter, how do I defend this/when I push this happens" questions...
The reason I say this is because I feel this thread should be for stuff that is actually about the guide, so we can see when there are updates, ask questions about the actual episodes, and so on, and right now this is just spammed away.
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On May 18 2012 17:35 Dvriel wrote: Hi, again Filter!
Got seroius trouble defending 1base marine+2siege tank push in Cloud Kingdom.Not even pulling workers.He just siege one tank between rocks and wall and the other one down with marines in front.If i got bunker,tanks kill it.And SCVs cant reach siege tanks.Can u make some videos defending this or maybe upload replays?
Thank u very much for everything u do for us to help us...
Can you show us the replays of you unsuccessfully defending it? Then we could all give our opinions on it.
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On May 18 2012 17:40 TheExodus wrote: All questions doesn't need to go into this thread. This is something that, with replays, should go into either the Terran help me, Simple questions, or a dedicated [H] thread.
That doesn't just go for this question, but I feel it goes for most "Hey Filter, how do I defend this/when I push this happens" questions...
The reason I say this is because I feel this thread should be for stuff that is actually about the guide, so we can see when there are updates, ask questions about the actual episodes, and so on, and right now this is just spammed away.
Haha at first I suspected your 121 posts to be only in this thread, but after reading this I can safely assume you are Filter's personal assitant haha gj for your dedication TheExodus I like it  Will try to contribute more to this thread myself after seeing this.
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Word has spread in the lower leagues of your exploits, Filter. Had a game where a fellow lowbie noticed your "build' for a lack of a better term. I am now out of bronze and i'm in silver now. Thanks!
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Ive been practicing the Zerg benchmarks like a madman! Even in 2v2 and i love the challenge. So far i have managed to win 9 out of 10 games on the ladder. The reactions ive had when people see the sheer amount of roaches flowing into the base is amazing! People seriously cant believe by 13 mins i almost have a maxed out army with 2/2 on the way! Sometimes im still a little short on the drones, regularly hitting 30 @ 6 mins, 50 @ 8 mins but regularly getting 35/55 is tough. One thing which is starting to come naturally is larva injects though. When i tried Zerg originally, i just could not hit them, so could not produce the drones/units and lost an absolute ton of games! Hence why i went protoss, things were simpler.
Looking forward to the follow up videos and developing the build!
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this is such an epic guide. i never realized how bad my economy was! thank you so much!
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On May 18 2012 17:40 TheExodus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 17:35 Dvriel wrote: Hi, again Filter!
Got seroius trouble defending 1base marine+2siege tank push in Cloud Kingdom.Not even pulling workers.He just siege one tank between rocks and wall and the other one down with marines in front.If i got bunker,tanks kill it.And SCVs cant reach siege tanks.Can u make some videos defending this or maybe upload replays?
Thank u very much for everything u do for us to help us... All questions doesn't need to go into this thread. This is something that, with replays, should go into either the Terran help me, Simple questions, or a dedicated [H] thread. That doesn't just go for this question, but I feel it goes for most "Hey Filter, how do I defend this/when I push this happens" questions... The reason I say this is because I feel this thread should be for stuff that is actually about the guide, so we can see when there are updates, ask questions about the actual episodes, and so on, and right now this is just spammed away.
You know I actually don't mind that much, the thread doesn't move blazing fast and discussion is always a good thing, plus there's a lot of great help here. The vast majority of the help in this thread is based around the ideas of macro and hitting certain marks, instead of being overwhelmed with the 50 things somebody did wrong there's a clear direction for improvement.
On a side note Diablo 3's rocky launch absolutely raped me, the one day it was freely available to play my buddies and I ran through nightmare start to finish 
Back to creating the content today though, I need to get another map video done, add the third Zerg video and I really want to take a look at the engagements. Expect to see lots of updates tomorrow on the channel, plus I plan on announcing a couple of new series going forward that should be really good.
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