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eugalp
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
June 24 2012 21:23 GMT
#241
I believe MC has moved away from this build. This build delays sentries for quite a bit and may be vulnerable to a stim rush. There was a game, I forget where, but I think it was vs Polt, on TDA. Polt did a good job hiding marauders, skipped conc shells and went straight for stim. Then he just walked up to MC's base and destroyed him. Now MC gets earlier sentries.
"More GG more skill" - White-Ra
Chillypill
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark25 Posts
June 25 2012 08:36 GMT
#242
I lost to terran doing this build.

I scout him seeing 1 rax no gas late enough to know there was no stim timing/111/other cheese comming good so I expect it to be 1 rax expo since he chase my probe away and put down a bunker at his natural, but what then happened surprised me. After my probe leaving he imidiatly throw down 2 more rax and pump marines to make a pretty sick attack at my expansion, all while taking his own expansion (he can do this since no gas). So I end up loosing my expand since I have to go up ramp and force field to keep him away (since that many marines are so imbalanced compared to how few units i have earlygame beause of 1gate expo)

After that I was soo faar behind that I lost when he just did a random a-move derpderp push with 1 attack and stim.
I am rank 1 Diamond player and I really cant see how to beat this. It doesnt matter if I poke in and try and see his expansion time since terrans can just derp and build it on highground. Marines are so inzanely costeffective earlygame so its pretty much done deal for my expansion when he does that and I am allready commited for 1gate expansion - even if I hold xel'naga towers and see it comming I cant produce enough units in time to hold it.

What do I do? Btw the game was played on cloud kingdom. I might upload replay when I get home.

Please help from people whos master only since im rank 1 diamond myself xD
gslavik
Profile Joined August 2010
United States72 Posts
June 25 2012 08:57 GMT
#243
On June 25 2012 17:36 Chillypill wrote:
I lost to terran doing this build.

I scout him seeing 1 rax no gas late enough to know there was no stim timing/111/other cheese comming good so I expect it to be 1 rax expo since he chase my probe away and put down a bunker at his natural, but what then happened surprised me. After my probe leaving he imidiatly throw down 2 more rax and pump marines to make a pretty sick attack at my expansion, all while taking his own expansion (he can do this since no gas). So I end up loosing my expand since I have to go up ramp and force field to keep him away (since that many marines are so imbalanced compared to how few units i have earlygame beause of 1gate expo)

After that I was soo faar behind that I lost when he just did a random a-move derpderp push with 1 attack and stim.
I am rank 1 Diamond player and I really cant see how to beat this. It doesnt matter if I poke in and try and see his expansion time since terrans can just derp and build it on highground. Marines are so inzanely costeffective earlygame so its pretty much done deal for my expansion when he does that and I am allready commited for 1gate expansion - even if I hold xel'naga towers and see it comming I cant produce enough units in time to hold it.

What do I do? Btw the game was played on cloud kingdom. I might upload replay when I get home.

Please help from people whos master only since im rank 1 diamond myself xD


Looks like what MKP did once, bunker at nat, but no CC. I always try to verify that there is a CC there, even if it costs me a zealot or a stalker.
"I am infallible, you should know that by now." --Dogbert
Emperor
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway68 Posts
June 25 2012 11:00 GMT
#244
On June 25 2012 05:38 lordsurya08 wrote:
Excellent guide! You mention that against a gasless FE we should pick a different build. So what build should we do? Is
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/1_Gate_FE_3_Gate_Pressure_(PvT)
a good build to switch to?


From my experience with this build at High Master level you can react in 2 ways to a 1 rax gasless expand, either transition into an all in or cut units. I like to do the latter. Just skip 1 or 2 Stalkers and get an earlier nexus, you should be able to prevent engineering bay block with the Zealot. Then just conteniue to CB out probes and you should be atleast equal on the eco.
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Revelatus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 16:37:34
June 27 2012 16:33 GMT
#245
I tend to lay out builds in excel when I first start drilling them in hopes to eventually commit them to memory, and I happen to have made a cheat sheet for this. Figured I'd put it here for anyone who is interested.

MC's 1 Gate FE

Cheers, and thanks for the great thread
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