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greendestiny
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
November 10 2011 20:45 GMT
#381
Great thread. I do wonder how does the OP handle repeated games against a same guy? I mean, if they know you will rush...
One tiny thing - the address of your replay vs Satiini is not hyperlinked.
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Simonius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany98 Posts
November 10 2011 20:46 GMT
#382
On November 11 2011 05:45 greendestiny wrote:
Great thread. I do wonder how does the OP handle repeated games against a same guy? I mean, if they know you will rush...
One tiny thing - the address of your replay vs Satiini is not hyperlinked.

Then he will obviously lose......He probably waits 2 min or so between games. Wouldn't make any other sense...Especially not at GM level.
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 10 2011 20:54 GMT
#383
i have some backup cheeses same as i throw in some dronerushes. its hard at gm specialy when u ladder at night. met tod 7 times in a row one night. -_- sometimes i went for an economical 7pool since its in the rules. i could write the strat down 2 and upload a replay if theres any interest. i think its a pretty cool strat and might be used quite often in the future because i often double the economy when my (for example toss) oponnent has 22 worker i have 44 (with cutting units completely after the 6 lings because i get into a position where he neither can allin me nor can he take his expantion in time.)
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 21:28:04
November 10 2011 21:27 GMT
#384
I think it was actually ActionJessus who was the "first" Gm with 6 pool only but non the less a nice guide
To few zergs know how to 6 pool properly :p
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 21:39:33
November 10 2011 21:28 GMT
#385
he was never gm, even tho he would belong there, neither did he only use 6pool

added some new conent same as the 7eco pool i threw in from time to time

will add a vod against TLO later so check it out from time to time : )
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Simonius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany98 Posts
November 10 2011 21:39 GMT
#386
On November 11 2011 05:54 Bad_Habit wrote:
i have some backup cheeses same as i throw in some dronerushes. its hard at gm specialy when u ladder at night. met tod 7 times in a row one night. -_- sometimes i went for an economical 7pool since its in the rules. i could write the strat down 2 and upload a replay if theres any interest. i think its a pretty cool strat and might be used quite often in the future because i often double the economy when my (for example toss) oponnent has 22 worker i have 44 (with cutting units completely after the 6 lings because i get into a position where he neither can allin me nor can he take his expantion in time.)

Pls can you elaborate on scouting timings in 12 drone rush and how to get pool down earlier? I cant get it done faster then 41 seconds on some maps with or without stacked mining
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 21:57:27
November 10 2011 21:48 GMT
#387
I've gone up to rank 34 masters been cheesing the hell out of anyone on Ladder with some of your Cheese Strats.

Seems to have a high success rate vs Protoss even if they scout it they don't know how to deal with it. I beat the same Protoss 3 times in a row on Ladder with it.

Beat a Few Terrans with it too but its extremely Risky. Sometimes they get the Wall off..... b4 u get there.

Edit: Oh yeah and u have to micro like a boss i have pretty good micro been winning more games then losing...!!! lol
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Alastor
Profile Joined September 2010
Brazil30 Posts
November 10 2011 22:45 GMT
#388
Just got beaten by WhiteRa. A nice pair of "special tactics" after th big hold on Antiga Shipyard against the super early pool.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
November 10 2011 22:47 GMT
#389
^ Replay or it didn't happen.
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Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 22:50:10
November 10 2011 22:48 GMT
#390
yeah i didnt allin tho, used the eco 7 pool and it did well but was to nervous to scout decent enough so i lost to his allin^^

deserved the lose since zerg isnt supposed to win blind
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Beijer
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden28 Posts
November 10 2011 22:58 GMT
#391
Hey, are you in GM skill level without 6/7 pool?
Alastor
Profile Joined September 2010
Brazil30 Posts
November 10 2011 23:15 GMT
#392
WhiteRa won again. But it was very close in a few moments. The early pool was stopped with a nice probe micro
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 23:22:42
November 10 2011 23:21 GMT
#393
On November 09 2011 03:03 UmiNotsuki wrote:
Okay, elephant in the room. Completely ignoring the content of the OP, I really have trouble with threads that contain 10+ lines of text with no line breaks and use horrible spelling (e.g., you = u, the = teh, before = b4, etc.) If you wanna be taken seriously, clean it up, please!

That aside, where's the romance gone!? There's something beautiful to grand strategy, there's an art to perfectly thought out and perfectly executed plays. Epic battles of wit and skill! It's why we play StarCraft II in the first place, after all, it's why I watch streams and tournaments all day, it's why there's a culture based solely on this one video game and its predecessor. There's nothing grand about 6 pooling into grandmaster; the only thing this thread makes me think is how terribly annoying cheese is, how frustrating it can be to want to play a real game, free from easy-to-execute, boring all-ins, and to be matched with a 6 pooler instead.

Let me clartify; I almost never lose to 6 pools. I'd estimate I've got about a 90% winrate against them. That doesn't mean 6 pool is bad, I'm just pretty good at dealing with it. But the point is, even when I win against a 6 pool, I'm not enjoying the game. I'm simply going through motions, executing some quick drone micro, and then the game ends. I didn't have to think at all, I didn't have to push myself to my limit to see my will overcome my opponent's; I had to stack drones on a far mineral patch, pull them back, and attack move for an instant surround and an all-too-easy win.

I miss the days of shunning cheesers... when did it become socially acceptable to make the game boring for other people?

._.


What a sad post. I suggest you go read the meaning of strategy. Will you deny that efficiency and victory are unrelated to strategy? Strategy is NOT prolonging the length of battle or building up for big engagements. Strategy is the means to victory and our friend here has done exactly that - mastered the art of war in his own funny little way - unlike most 6 poolers, he knows how to micro properly.

It's time people start seeing cheese as just part of the game. If it can be built or used, then it's valid, period.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST - The best players he played, such as white-ra and huk, took the losses without a care in the world. It's only semi-pro's like beastyqt that flame hardcore. That tells you something very important about the mindset of true pro's.
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
d33p
Profile Joined December 2010
France27 Posts
November 10 2011 23:24 GMT
#394
Just saw u doin this against White ra I think it was you !
He holds and won with nice blink stalers !
Anyway nice analysis of the 6 pool =)
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never2far
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania9 Posts
November 11 2011 00:00 GMT
#395
ZvP Eco 7pool iS a Nice build thx for sharing your builds
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 00:05:17
November 11 2011 00:03 GMT
#396
added a replay against whitera played today. seeing how 7pool can be defended quite well (even tho it did some damage) and how to transition. sad i threw the game away T_T
http://drop.sc/56357 (its in the mainpost aswell)
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I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
White-Ra
Profile Joined October 2006
Ukraine37 Posts
November 11 2011 00:06 GMT
#397
This is good bo, id toss make mistake little eazy win
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 11 2011 07:26 GMT
#398
On November 11 2011 09:06 White-Ra wrote:
This is good bo, id toss make mistake little eazy win


<3
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
November 11 2011 08:12 GMT
#399
a couple of months ago i got to top 300 NA by just 6 pooling but i had trouble vs terran.i'll try this and report back
SchfiftyFive
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
November 11 2011 08:26 GMT
#400
I've lost to quite a bit of these de-lovely strats, my favorite is the one on xel naga where u chrono out your zealot and wall off after scouting the 6-9 pool and then becuz of pathing issues ur zealot warps in behind ur wall even tho ur rallied to the front, hilariously theres absolutely nothing at all you can do about it, so yay i lose points to some douche but i know i will almost never encounter it in a tournament so i say my piece with the ****er and move on
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