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EDIT: thinking about it and this might be important for reference. this setup was inspired by DRG's use of the macro keys as seen at MLG. i referenced this in my original post (linked below) but i think its better said right at the top of the page.
Check out the video of DRG here!
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Hey guys, I just wanted to fill you all in on the new hotkey setup which has DRASTICALLY improved my macro as a zerg. First I'm going to give ya a quick description of where I am at in starcraft and then i'll explain my old setup and why i didnt like it and THEN I'll get to the good stuff - what's working for me. Everything except super important info will be in spoilers for your viewing pleasure ^^
About Me - Why I Struggled With Hotkeys For The First Year of SC2:
+ Show Spoiler +Firstly, I need to introduce myself as I'm a bit new. Really briefly, I am a 22 year old platinum zerg player and this is my first real RTS and I played Brood War extremely casually. I watch any and all starcraft for my strategies and I consider myself relatively knowledgeable about the game and in particular zerg..but my mechanics are always holding me back since this is my first RTS. I was either playing sunken D (still waiting for this custom  ) or playing whatever race I felt like that day and building whatever unit I felt like making that day (goliaths were my usual choice!). So, during the beta I pretty much did the same stuff until my friend sat me down and actually taught me how to play for real. I started out in bronze as one would imagine but worked my way up as protoss and when I decided I wanted to play zerg, back down to the bottom and all of the way up to the top. My mechanics were alright with protoss and I could get by using 2 control groups and not binding my robo or stargate. Not so with zerg. I needed to have a solid hotkey setup which brings me to the old setup!
My Old Hotkey Setup & Why I Don't Like It.
My old hotkey setup was pretty basic - 1 main army, 2, "special" units, 3 harass units. I've gotten better about adjusting my setup for when it gets late game and I want to be slow pushing with my broods and being overall very flexible. But thats not what was holding me down because my army control has gotten SO much better. It was my macro hotkeys, 4 hatcheries, 5 queens.
+ Show Spoiler +I know that there are several different ways to control your macro, but as a little nub, this was the easiest..my keyboard mechanics still weren't that great overall despite the army control improvements and I was generally slow. So, having my queens on one hotkey was great for me..if I had banshees in my base, they were all on one hotkey and I could control them all together. The problem was because I had one hotkey for all my hatcheries and one for all my queens, bouncing between hatcheries for injects was slowing me down. I had to minimap inject or mouse move my camera (EW!) to get to the hatcheries with queens next to them.
Sometimes you have to baby sit your units a bit because they're so fragile. Sometimes you want to be harassing and don't want to give the other player more than a couple seconds to breathe before entering with your mutas somewhere else. You need to be fast with your injects so your opponent doesn't get the chance to catch up on his own macro, get the chance to finish turrets, and/or move units into better position for you next attack, etc. This is why I felt I needed to change my setup.
In Which My Black Widow Keyboard Single-Handedly Raises My Skill-Ceiling
First lets talk about the setup and why I think its awesome.
1-3 Army - Set these up how you want. That's obviously personal preference.
4 - Hatches
5 - Queens in case of banshee, void ray, etc
6, 7 - Overseers, Units I plan to scout with. Depends on whats happening in the game.
Here's where it gets good.
8, 9, 0 - Individual queens.
Now my little noob fingers are not nearly as agile as someone like Losira's who simply flow over the keyboard like he's still playing the piano. But how am I reaching these keys faster than I was before with only my queens on one hotkey? Simple: my macro keys on my black widow!
I posted a thread a little while back asking if it was okay to bind my macro keys to single keystrokes and when I found out it was okay i decided it was time to give it a shot.
So instead of actually pressing the 8, 9, and 0 keys, i bound them as follows:
m2 = 8
m3 = 9
m4 = 0
And then I took off my m1 and m5 keys to prevent any misclicking.
So here's how I'm accessing these keys. It took a lot of practice because its simply not natural (i'd say more or less 99% of keyboards don't have these keys in this location), but I was determined to make it work.
First, its important that the queens are located on the RIGHT SIDE of the hatchery so you dont have to move your mouse at all to cast inject. If they aren't in the correct location, you'll slow yourself down. Secondly here is how I'm pressing the keys: Pinky hits the macro keys and double taps to select a queen, thumb on 'v' to inject, click the hatch. Go straight down the macro keys with your pinky and viola! You're done! It sped up my injects by trimming about 5 seconds off the whole process and once you practice it more and get good with it, you can fly down the macro keys and be done in under a second or two. Now, you're almost pro! 
I hope you guys found this pretty useful and especially those of you with black widow keyboards. I encourage you to give it a try even with your other races. Instead of queens it could be your rax, fact, starport. or robo, stargate. so try it out with other races since I am not experienced with them using this setup!
Feel free to ask questions and thanks for reading! glhf with this new hotkey layout should you choose to test it out! ^^
-nrBluemoon/immortlone
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where did you buy this keyboard and how much did you get it for? i'm looking to buy one.
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Well written and good for you, keep up the playing. Though you should know that in a tournament setting they dont allow macros. Which when you visit you'll have to find another way to hit those keys.
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The honest and true answer is just get better hand speed and control, and play normally without majorly overhauled hotkeys. Just put queens on 5 6 7 8, thats what I do when I play zerg and injects are stupid easy.
Don't try to find ezmode ways to fix things, just try to get better at what your given to use.
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I don't know if a guide for a specific race for a specific keyboard is necessary...
Also, isn't easier to use FKeys?
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On September 22 2011 00:15 HikariPrime wrote:
Well written and good for you, keep up the playing. Though you should know that in a tournament setting they dont allow macros. Which when you visit you'll have to find another way to hit those keys.
On September 22 2011 00:19 N3rV[Green] wrote:
The honest and true answer is just get better hand speed and control, and play normally without majorly overhauled hotkeys. Just put queens on 5 6 7 8, thats what I do when I play zerg and injects are stupid easy.
Don't try to find ezmode ways to fix things, just try to get better at what your given to use.
well what peeked my interest was watching DRG hit his m4 (i believe that was the key) during MLG - the video is in the post i linked to in the OP w/ my original question.
apparently its multiple keystrokes they dont like as opposed to single key-binds.
EDIT: heres a quicker link to the video for reference!
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On September 22 2011 00:23 mizU wrote:
I don't know if a guide for a specific race for a specific keyboard is necessary...
Also, isn't easier to use FKeys?
if at least one person finds it useful i consider it a success ^^
as for the camera method using the f keys..personally, i felt this method was faster and my hand reset to the "default" position hovering over my 1-5 hotkeys was more consistent.
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Oh, I see. Well, then thats great. Good luck then ^^
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You can also bind all of your queens to a single hotkey then hold shift + V and click the hatcheries on the minimap, the nearest queen will automatically vomit on the hatch.
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On September 22 2011 00:37 anarchist wrote:
You can also bind all of your queens to a single hotkey then hold shift + V and click the hatcheries on the minimap, the nearest queen will automatically vomit on the hatch.
again, i just found the outlined method quicker and easier for me 
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Let's just get this out of the way now:
You are allowed to have actions mapped to mouse buttons or non-standard keys if you want. What you can't have is one key performing more than one action. So OP is fine.
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I find Sheth's method to be amazingly fast (backspace with backspace bound to tab) - put all queens on w.e.. (I have 0 ctrl group to the left of 1) and then you click that button, press tab,v click, tab v, click. Rinse and repeat - incredibly fast and even though I can't do it properly as I switched from what you used to do just recently I can definitely see the potential in it when I get it going. =]
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why not put backspace on caps lock instead as we dont use that at all in the game?
though it might give moments of ALL CAPS talk :p
personally i have a thumb button on my mouse as backspace/center camera on base, so i hit mousebutton v over and over to just quickly inject
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Have fun playing when your beer falls on your keyboard!!!
I switch between my laptop and my desktop, two different feeling keyboards, and guess what, I still can play!!
I agree with everyone else that is saying just get better with handspeed.
With that said, I still do not understand why peopld use 1,2,3 for armys as zerg..
I have larger hands, but I still can not reach keys 7890 very well without moving my hand.
My hotkeys are set as so:
1 1st queen
2 2nd queen
3 3rd queen
4 hatches
5 main army (I rehotkey this a lot depending on what I am doing.. pretty much 5 is my main foucs group.. if I am harrasing, I make sure to put my harrasing units in 5)
6 Special army units / static army (units sitting outside my base until I am ready to use them)
7 sometimes will be used if I am doing a two pronged attack.
8-9 overseers around the map.
Now, the reasons for my setup are as follows. KEEP THE SHIT YOU ARE GOING TO USE CLOSEST TO YOUR HAND.
Thats pretty much it.
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On September 22 2011 03:52 NmE_ wrote:
Have fun playing when your beer falls on your keyboard!!!
I switch between my laptop and my desktop, two different feeling keyboards, and guess what, I still can play!!
I agree with everyone else that is saying just get better with handspeed.
With that said, I still do not understand why peopld use 1,2,3 for armys as zerg..
I have larger hands, but I still can not reach keys 7890 very well without moving my hand.
My hotkeys are set as so:
1 1st queen
2 2nd queen
3 3rd queen
4 hatches
5 main army (I rehotkey this a lot depending on what I am doing.. pretty much 5 is my main foucs group.. if I am harrasing, I make sure to put my harrasing units in 5)
6 Special army units / static army (units sitting outside my base until I am ready to use them)
7 sometimes will be used if I am doing a two pronged attack.
8-9 overseers around the map.
Now, the reasons for my setup are as follows. KEEP THE SHIT YOU ARE GOING TO USE CLOSEST TO YOUR HAND.
Thats pretty much it.
not sure what you mean by your first statement..but okay!
as for keeping the shit im going to use closest to my hand, you'll noticed that everything is completely close to my hand in a grid that goes out to the 5 key down to the b key..im not using the second half of the keyboard when i play and thus i dont have to worry about my hand resetting.
here's a picture of the keyboard..maybe you dont know what one looks like?
![[image loading]](http://dri1.img.digitalrivercontent.net/Storefront/Company/msstore/images/hardware/pdp/en-US_Razer_BlackWidow_Gaming_Kybd_DHF-00098.jpg)
m1 - m5 are on the far left side of the keyboard.
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OP- I mean that if your keyboard breaks, you will have to wait another 3-4 days and be out $90 before you can play at your normal pace.
with a standard qwerty keyboard, the 123456 keys are the ones closest to your hand, there for I use them. One of the other things that I have seen that might be a good idea too is to move your keybindings over to the right 3 keys. That way your hand is more in the middle of the keyboard and has access to more keys, however, this just feels odd to me.
EDIT: Also, I know what the keyboard looks like
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On September 22 2011 04:23 NmE_ wrote:OP- I mean that if your keyboard breaks, you will have to wait another 3-4 days and be out $90 before you can play at your normal pace. with a standard qwerty keyboard, the 123456 keys are the ones closest to your hand, there for I use them. One of the other things that I have seen that might be a good idea too is to move your keybindings over to the right 3 keys. That way your hand is more in the middle of the keyboard and has access to more keys, however, this just feels odd to me. EDIT: Also, I know what the keyboard looks like
ah i see what youre saying. but the thing is i LOVE this keyboard (i wouldnt change brands or models) and honestly, if any keyboard broke i wouldnt pick up any other keyboard i wasnt used to playing with just to play. its kinda like having your own golf clubs..you'd have to make an effort to learn the feel of a new set of clubs if you decided to change brands or models. you wouldnt want to do that unless you absolutely have to. you probably wouldnt play unless you had an extra or else your game would be noticeably different.
(man, that golf club analogy is pretty spot on )
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ight, going with the golf theme...
Would you rather be a good player with ANY set of clubs? Or a good player with only your set?
I guess what I am saying is that I find it gimmicky to buy $90 keyboards when my HP keyboard that I have boxes of from work works just fine. I have 160apm (I dont spam anything, or else it would be higher) so it is not like a $90 keyboard would make me play better. Nor would a $500 driver. I would still shank that fucker as much as a old wooden one.
Also, I played golf for years and worked at a country club for a few years.
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On September 22 2011 04:34 NmE_ wrote:
ight, going with the golf theme...
Would you rather be a good player with ANY set of clubs? Or a good player with only your set?
I guess what I am saying is that I find it gimmicky to buy $90 keyboards when my HP keyboard that I have boxes of from work works just fine. I have 160apm (I dont spam anything, or else it would be higher) so it is not like a $90 keyboard would make me play better. Nor would a $500 driver. I would still shank that fucker as much as a old wooden one.
Also, I played golf for years and worked at a country club for a few years.
I see where youre coming from. But, i've tried many a keyboard and finally got my hands on a mechanical keyboard..i immediately fell in love with mine over any keyboard i've ever owned from the first time i pressed a key. and you can develop that same kind of relationship with any piece of sports equipment or pieces of computer hardware (see: apple people, ati vs nvidia) or even personal hygiene products (i will never buy another scent of deoderant other than Old Spice's swagger because thats what i prefer) or down to your favorite ketchup (huntz vs heinz)!
going back to golf, look at someone like tiger woods. IIRC he had been using the same putter for years and suddenly decided to change it. not sure if it was putter or driver, but i remember the criticism of doing so. i bring that up because of the point that he was using the same brand for years and got used to it so why would you change when you've gotten good using the same equipment for years upon years. why did he keep using the club? who knows. maybe he liked the grip. maybe he liked the weight. maybe he had just been using it since he started playing on the PGA tour and never had a reason to change.
point being you tend to stay with that brand because its what youre used to and/or what you prefer. if i had to change keyboards for whatever reason, yeah i would be forced to play without "trying to find loopholes" (which isn't what im trying to do..im just using what i have to my advantage and how i want to play). but as long as they make this keyboard, i will buy it! and as long as you have your keyboards that you're comfortable with using, you too will use them!
TL;DR - its all about preference. we're creatures of habit.
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I was under the impression that any use of macro keys was a violation of the TOS so thanks you for making this thread. Had I known I could rebind a single key to my macro keys I would have been using them this whole time! I feel like I can finally give up the backspace method of injecting.
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Alright, getting a little off topic here..
Anyway, my point is this;
I don't know why zergs use 123 as army and not queens - injects > army size (at any given time)
I don't know why people would use "custom" or "non-standard" keyboards/mice to play. (By non-standard" I mean aside from the basic qwerty keyboard that does not rely on gimmicy buttons)
TL;DR Who gives a fuck, lets go play starcraft!!!
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On September 22 2011 04:51 HTODethklok wrote:
I was under the impression that any use of macro keys was a violation of the TOS so thanks you for making this thread. Had I known I could rebind a single key to my macro keys I would have been using them this whole time! I feel like I can finally give up the backspace method of injecting.
Why not just use 1, 2, 3 as your queens?
1v2v3v is pretty easy to type out.
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@OP don't worry about that guy, he's just the token thread nitpicker imo. I've had my keyboard for 10 years and im sure yours will last a long time as well as long as you dont smash it around like you're 10 years old
also if you have a 5 button mouse i suggest using a program to rebind controlgroups on your mouse. At least for me it helped a lot specifically with adding to / making new control groups and not so much selecting them. I've done this recently so still getting used to it but I figure it'll work great when i do start using it regularily. You can also do some nifty things with your mouse wheel regarding warpgate macro and super fast worker transfers ^>^
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On September 22 2011 04:51 HTODethklok wrote:
I was under the impression that any use of macro keys was a violation of the TOS so thanks you for making this thread. Had I known I could rebind a single key to my macro keys I would have been using them this whole time! I feel like I can finally give up the backspace method of injecting.
yay im glad i could help. just dont bind scripts (for instance: m1 = 4,s,d for a one button larva select). and you'll be okay!
On September 22 2011 04:54 NmE_ wrote:
Alright, getting a little off topic here..
Anyway, my point is this;
I don't know why zergs use 123 as army and not queens - injects > army size (at any given time)
I don't know why people would use "custom" or "non-standard" keyboards/mice to play. (By non-standard" I mean aside from the basic qwerty keyboard that does not rely on gimmicy buttons)
TL;DR Who gives a fuck, lets go play starcraft!!!
i have definitely been considering using 1 as my hatcheries with this new setup which leaves the rest of the control groups up to 7 (keeping my same queen layout of 8, 9, 0) and creates a lot of opportunity for multiple control groups. i find that very intriguing and may have to give it a shot.
besides..for me, anyway, 1a2a3a isnt as "quick" to press as 2a3a4a5a. i get tied up after the 1a very briefly.
i think i'll be testing this out tonight. thanks for the suggestion ^^
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On September 22 2011 04:55 NmE_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:51 HTODethklok wrote:
I was under the impression that any use of macro keys was a violation of the TOS so thanks you for making this thread. Had I known I could rebind a single key to my macro keys I would have been using them this whole time! I feel like I can finally give up the backspace method of injecting. Why not just use 1, 2, 3 as your queens? 1v2v3v is pretty easy to type out.
Because I prefer my army to be on keys 1-4 since they are closer to the A key my hatchs on 5 and queens on 6,7,8 with all queens on 9 which I rebound to W to do backspace injects. Using this new method I can have my army keys close to A and my queen keys close to V. Its just what feels comfortable for me.
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On September 22 2011 04:58 askTeivospy wrote:
@OP don't worry about that guy, he's just the token thread nitpicker imo. I've had my keyboard for 10 years and im sure yours will last a long time as well as long as you dont smash it around like you're 10 years old
also if you have a 5 button mouse i suggest using a program to rebind controlgroups on your mouse. At least for me it helped a lot specifically with adding to / making new control groups and not so much selecting them. I've done this recently so still getting used to it but I figure it'll work great when i do start using it regularily. You can also do some nifty things with your mouse wheel regarding warpgate macro and super fast worker transfers ^>^
this is another thing ive considered..im not sure what i keys i would bind to the back and forward buttons as a zerg..inject and creep tumor? the select function for larva? fungals and neurals? i'll have to give this more thought as well!
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If you have a fancy keyboard, I think a way better use for those keys would be location hotkeys
If you assign each hatchery to a location you would need to tap them once each (instead of twice) to cycle through hatcheries. You'd need to keep all queens on 1 hotkeys, hit inject, and hold shift while cycling.
This is the 2nd fastest injection method there is. The fastest is the backspace one but that has the roaming queens problem.
It's also the method I use, although I have a crappy keyboard and need to rebind shift+1-5 as location hotkeys.
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Just curious are F keys (f2 f3 f4) usually allowed in tournaments? Or do tournaments allow remapping keys?
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Also I can give out more suggesions:
rebind spacebar to a controlgroup and use that for harassing/scouting units, something that you typically use when multitasking a lot. The "jump to last alert" is unusable anyway.
The Q key is used only for "birth queen" for zerg. You can rebind birth queen to e.g. A and use Q for what you prefer.
Same for the G key, which is only used for worker rally points.
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On September 22 2011 04:34 NmE_ wrote:
ight, going with the golf theme...
Would you rather be a good player with ANY set of clubs? Or a good player with only your set?
I guess what I am saying is that I find it gimmicky to buy $90 keyboards when my HP keyboard that I have boxes of from work works just fine. I have 160apm (I dont spam anything, or else it would be higher) so it is not like a $90 keyboard would make me play better. Nor would a $500 driver. I would still shank that fucker as much as a old wooden one.
Also, I played golf for years and worked at a country club for a few years.
There are DISTINCT advantages to playing with a programmable keyboard such as the Black Widow. They enable MUCH better hotkey and control group setups than standard keyboards can have, at least without scripts from AutoHotKey, etc.
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yea i will be rebinding the f keys to my macro buttons on my g110, better than having the buttons as 'gl hf'
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Wow, this is defeintely alot of help...I was thinking of getting the Maurader keyboard but now i think id rather have the black widow....
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On September 22 2011 05:46 amd098 wrote:
yea i will be rebinding the f keys to my macro buttons on my g110, better than having the buttons as 'gl hf'
be careful using that macro. blizzard isn't too keen on actual macros like pressing a key to say "enter+glhf+enter"
On September 22 2011 05:57 wingweaver415 wrote:
Wow, this is defeintely alot of help...I was thinking of getting the Maurader keyboard but now i think id rather have the black widow....
glad to have helped you make that choice ^^
On September 22 2011 05:11 dementrio wrote:
If you have a fancy keyboard, I think a way better use for those keys would be location hotkeys
If you assign each hatchery to a location you would need to tap them once each (instead of twice) to cycle through hatcheries. You'd need to keep all queens on 1 hotkeys, hit inject, and hold shift while cycling.
This is the 2nd fastest injection method there is. The fastest is the backspace one but that has the roaming queens problem.
It's also the method I use, although I have a crappy keyboard and need to rebind shift+1-5 as location hotkeys.
i see your point and i would argue, respectfully, that if youre going to have it as location keys you may as well have the queens individually hotkeyed.
that way you can control the individual queens and reduce clicking in non-inject situations. or if they wander off a bit, with them individually hotkeyed, its a quick fix to get them back into the proper position (on the right side of the hatch). but i definitely see the benefits of using the macro keys as camera location keys.
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this is why i use the Razer Naga mouse, i can access all of my hotkeys simply from my mouse's thumb buttons
i love it it's so nice
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On September 22 2011 07:57 immortlone wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:46 amd098 wrote:
yea i will be rebinding the f keys to my macro buttons on my g110, better than having the buttons as 'gl hf' be careful using that macro. blizzard isn't too keen on actual macros like pressing a key to say "enter+glhf+enter" .
its worse... its 1 key for g,one for l, one for h, one for f
so i hit enter then swipe the 4 buttons and get a glhf :p
laziest of lazy
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if i were you i'd play without macro, like a normal lan setting. to want to get better at the same, you should determined to play it the 'normal' way ^^
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I have a blackwidow and I have not used those keys because i thought that they were not allowed in tournament setting as it may be an unfair advantage.
Was that an MLG clip and they allowed him to use that keyboard?
VERY VERY interesting
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On September 22 2011 08:18 amd098 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:57 immortlone wrote:On September 22 2011 05:46 amd098 wrote:
yea i will be rebinding the f keys to my macro buttons on my g110, better than having the buttons as 'gl hf' be careful using that macro. blizzard isn't too keen on actual macros like pressing a key to say "enter+glhf+enter" . its worse... its 1 key for g,one for l, one for h, one for f so i hit enter then swipe the 4 buttons and get a glhf :p laziest of lazy
haha if thats what youre doing thats fine. thats extremely funny, though!
On September 22 2011 08:20 ElusoryX wrote:
if i were you i'd play without macro, like a normal lan setting. to want to get better at the same, you should determined to play it the 'normal' way ^^
lets be fair. this is the "normal" way especially when you consider that blizzard has designed a custom hotkeys feature, right? i could create the most bizarre hotkey layout known to man, but all that matters is what works for me. there is no "normal" way anymore.
On September 22 2011 08:20 Perfect wrote:
I have a blackwidow and I have not used those keys because i thought that they were not allowed in tournament setting as it may be an unfair advantage.
Was that an MLG clip and they allowed him to use that keyboard?
VERY VERY interesting
yessir this was at MLG! from what i understand its okay as long as youre not issuing a macro command such as making my m1 key press "4+s+d" for a one keystroke larva select. using the macro keys in a 1-to-1 mapping like i outlined, its a-okay!
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Here's a dumb question while you were guys were talking about it; I made two macro's off of my Razer Marauder keyboard although it could be done with any capable keyboard. One for good luck, have fun with some spades characters thrown in (Alt + Num 6) and one for GG that has some heart characters (Alt + Num 3) and the GG one does a F10 + N so basically I hit one key it says my outro and exits the game. Is that really a bannable offense to do that instead of actual commands?
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On September 22 2011 04:51 HTODethklok wrote:
I was under the impression that any use of macro keys was a violation of the TOS so thanks you for making this thread. Had I known I could rebind a single key to my macro keys I would have been using them this whole time! I feel like I can finally give up the backspace method of injecting.
wait, people still use backspace?
you do know you can do custom hotkeys now right? any key on your keyboard can be the base camera key...
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Hi, was just about to go look for a new keyboard and got interested in the blackwidow one.
Tried to look up some info on the macro keys and if they're okey to use at events(not pro or anything just wanted to know). Came across this: http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/269843-keybinds/
Don't know if the information still is relevant.
Basicly a staff member of mlg(i think) states that the macro keys on the side arn't permited.
Wondering if anyone got some more info on the matter from a more recent date(was posted 7th of april 2012)
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Necro bump 0-O
Single strokes bound to them are fine, obviously at MLG they cannot enforce what possible macros are being bound to them so they disallow them completely.
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Woolverine you're thinking of macros, what this is is just rebinding hotkeys.
For example many pros rebind next base to something much closer to their fingers.
Also, wow dat bumb. o.0 try the simple questions simple answers thread next time
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I also have the blackwidow, but my setup its a bit different, and i think it lets you make your macro cycle faster:
I use the "base camera method" but i rebinded the base camera which is by default the backspace, to my mouse wheel so i press 6 (where my queens are) then inject button and shift, then mouse wheel - left click - mouse wheel - left click so in a matter of a second you have all your hatcheries injected. If you have one less queen and fear that all your queens are just messed up around the map, press the hold position button at the end of injecting.
The good thing about this is that you don't need a fancy keyboard.
Then i use the macro hotkeys for camera locations so if i want to see a base without having to go through the rest because of base camera just tab those
Edit: Wow, didnt see this was like 2 years ago xD
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I would highly reccomend switching to the core if you are worried about your hotkeys. I have a razer black widow too and I find it hard to use all of my screen hotkeys because of the staggered f keys. That's why I switched to the core. Also don't pay 80$ for that keyboard, I got mine off of amazon for 45$ brand new.
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after reading your thread
i spend 1 hour configuring my macro keys lol
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On January 22 2013 02:52 kitsch wrote:
If you have one less queen and fear that all your queens are just messed up around the map, press the hold position button at the end of injecting.
Just a warning for those of you who want to try the backspace method. Pressing hold position doesn't really solve anything. Yes, it stops your queens from wandering to another hatchery, but that's really all it does. After pressing hold position your queens will stop moving and hatcheries will remain un-injected.
If you're short one queen or a queen is short on energy, what tends to happen is the next closest queen will walk to the queenless hatchery, and another queen (from another hatchery) will take that queen's place. It starts a chain reaction of queens moving to hatcheries that they aren't supposed to.
The only way to solve this is just to always be conscious of the amount of queens you have and the amount of hatcheries you're injecting in your loop. If you have one less queen you need to be more careful with your loop and not press inject on the unattended hatch, or box select all your queens and inject that way. You can also tell right away if your inject loop is messed up because as you cycle through bases you will start seeing queens moving around instead of just injecting. This is a good way to catch the mistake right away and correct it (hold position might be useful here, but be aware that you still have to manually inject afterwards).
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On January 26 2013 03:45 smoosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 02:52 kitsch wrote:
If you have one less queen and fear that all your queens are just messed up around the map, press the hold position button at the end of injecting.
Just a warning for those of you who want to try the backspace method. Pressing hold position doesn't really solve anything. Yes, it stops your queens from wandering to another hatchery, but that's really all it does. After pressing hold position your queens will stop moving and hatcheries will remain un-injected. If you're short one queen or a queen is short on energy, what tends to happen is the next closest queen will walk to the queenless hatchery, and another queen (from another hatchery) will take that queen's place. It starts a chain reaction of queens moving to hatcheries that they aren't supposed to. The only way to solve this is just to always be conscious of the amount of queens you have and the amount of hatcheries you're injecting in your loop. If you have one less queen you need to be more careful with your loop and not press inject on the unattended hatch, or box select all your queens and inject that way. You can also tell right away if your inject loop is messed up because as you cycle through bases you will start seeing queens moving around instead of just injecting. This is a good way to catch the mistake right away and correct it (hold position might be useful here, but be aware that you still have to manually inject afterwards).
Yeah this method seems really cool, especially on tutorials when you inject 6 hatches in 1 second, but I was not happy with it in real-battle conditions. I tried it for a long time but wandering queens are just silly to me. I really wanted to find the best method, next step was the camera location hotkeys (F-keys). After that I found what works best for me so far - I hokey queens not locations.
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