[G] aXa's ZvT: Let's start the agression - Page 9

On September 12 2011 11:38 OSM.OneManArmy wrote:
Seems interesting.. unfortunately i just can't see this build ever beating pure mech if you never get infestors or broodlords..
I feel as if a terran can adapt to this relatively easily o.O

I would like to raise a point on the very important 5th hatch's injection.

When you are on 3 bases, and with good saturation, 4 hatcheries (3 on bases, 1 macro) is not enough to spend all the resources. I watched all your games and you float about 1.5k minerals at those stages.

It is also the MOST CRUCIAL time of the game, that's when terran normally moves out with a huge ball, an extra round of production at 20 seconds earlier time is going to win/lose you the game because you will either break his ball or not.

For instance, this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpfaJ9i3Zy8&feature=player_embedded#!
From 10:45 onward, your 3rd is fully online, you kept up with injection, and from the production tab you are constantly making units. However your mineral still goes above 1500 plenty times.

You had a 5th hatchery at an expansion, it is probably good idea to put a queen there and use it to inject. It seems when you expand to a 3rd, you will NEED another hatchery, 3 base, 5 hatch (bw hydra zvp standard) seems to work here, except with queens.

Maybe when expanding to a 3rd we should also throw down ANOTHER macro hatch. I feel with this build it is so important to keep the minerals low as long as possible while getting upgrades. 1500 mineral is 60 zerglings, which is going to make a huge difference (2 extra arms in a flank) but I need not tell you this.

So I'm going to try this, same build, but when I take my 3rd I will also make a macro hatch and maybe take a 4th soon after and keep up the larvae injection. My one SIMPLE goal is to never float minerals and slam out as much ling/roach(depend on context) as possible while getting the techs up. Reach 200 in an ungodly speed and start trading army intelligently.

Other than that there are small details I have to understand. At the 6:00 mark we build 2 queens, evos, and a macro hatch as part of our core infrastructure. This is pretty risky as it leaves you weak to a timing attack around 7th minute mark. My friend raised a good point about the macro hatch. Most of the times zerg don't make it, and that is going to be easier for them to fend off such timing attack without that investment.

Anyways, gonna watch this thread from now, nice guide, suits my playstyle immensely.

On September 12 2011 19:22 aXa wrote:
Btw guys, i'm now including zergling drop in my play. It is SO good !

On September 13 2011 22:06 KangaRuthless wrote:
RagequitTMO (from cast 1) wants to do a bo5 with aXa. Since I have an EU account as well, I can either livecast these or just cast and upload to YouTube later. Both players have agreed to do the bo5, we're just trying to figure out a time and day that works for all of us.

On September 14 2011 00:13 cupapoo wrote:
2 questions!

1. What triggers you to make the tech switch to roach? I know you say "if he's going pure mech, i go roach", however, to me, sometimes its not clear until its too late.

2. Even when I get roach, I'm kinda getting owned. How do you approach attacking a mech army that slowly moves across the map while dealing with those crazy fast hellions runnin around?

Forgot to mention - Great guide! Against those pesky marine tank pushes, i have creep halfway to his base and surround for the easy kill.

On September 14 2011 01:32 macaronij wrote:

it will be increible if you can live stream it!! but a youtube video is also good!!! keep the good work!!! aXa fighting!!

On September 14 2011 06:38 aXa wrote:
Livestream is great, but we still could made a VOD of it, right ?

On September 14 2011 07:05 KangaRuthless wrote:


Of course. Should be no problem, and I will run some tests today to make sure everything works.