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Toastyzeus
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia34 Posts
May 26 2012 09:00 GMT
#4841
whoops, yeah I fixed the link now..
How is a raven like a writing desk?
Toastyzeus
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia34 Posts
May 26 2012 09:01 GMT
#4842
Also, what do you all me with [g] posts and "blue posts", could somebody link me an example?
How is a raven like a writing desk?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 09:07:33
May 26 2012 09:06 GMT
#4843
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=327905
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=292549
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=318673

On the first page of the forum -.-
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Toastyzeus
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia34 Posts
May 26 2012 10:41 GMT
#4844
Ok so this is what I have going now:

PvP:


Sase's PvP Aggressive 2 Gate Expo

9 Pylon
13 Gate
14 Pylon
16 Gas ( mine only with 2 probes )
17 Gas( mine only with 2 probes )
18 Zealot
21 Pylon
22 Cybernetics Core
22 Zealot
25 Second gateway
26 First stalker no Chrono

Chrono out 4 Stalkers, then expand at 6:00



PvZ:

Fast 3rd into max kill:

FFE

4:20 Double gas
6:00 Warpgate / +1
@100% Cybercore chrono 1 zealot 1 stalker
6:45 Double gas
Build only sentries
7:00 3 gateways
7:50 Twilight council
8:20 Robo
9:00 Gateway
10:00 Expo
11:00 Gateway
11:30 Double Gas
11:40 Robo Bay and Gateway

Boost in Stalkers + Upgrades
15:00 4 gateways
How is a raven like a writing desk?
Toastyzeus
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia34 Posts
May 26 2012 10:42 GMT
#4845
I still dont have a good PvT build though.


I really enjoy SaSe's pvp though, so fun :D
How is a raven like a writing desk?
nogert
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
May 26 2012 18:32 GMT
#4846
I would really appreciate if someone would have a quick at this PvP match here, http://uploading.com/files/b4ad3f37/pvp+iloselikeanoobi.SC2Replay/

I have a lot of problem with late game, I just never know what to build.

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that tree has bark
Chasedown
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States87 Posts
May 26 2012 19:40 GMT
#4847
On May 26 2012 19:42 Toastyzeus wrote:
I still dont have a good PvT build though.


I really enjoy SaSe's pvp though, so fun :D



Not really a "Build" but

I like to shoot for 13gate -> cyber -> stalker -> nexus (22 or so) -> 2more gates -> double forge -> robo or templar tech depending on what you prefer -> 2 more gates if robo / 3-4 gates if templar -> Take 3rd when you feel secure.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
May 26 2012 19:43 GMT
#4848
On May 26 2012 15:55 waspen94 wrote:
When you go for Phoenix in PvP, and u attack into his army and lifts up his units, which ones should you focus fire? Lifted immortals and sentrys is obvious, but I'm talking more about the Stalkeras. Should you focus the ones on the ground or the ones in the air?

go for units in this order: sentries->zealots->immortals->stalkers
The reason to go for the zealots is because phoenix do more damage to them (because they're light), but also those are the only really good tanking units that you see in PvP (besides archons, but phoenix can't lift them); so if you kill off your opponents zealots, you will have tanks, and they won't--obviously that is a good thing.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 26 2012 21:18 GMT
#4849
On May 26 2012 15:55 waspen94 wrote:
When you go for Phoenix in PvP, and u attack into his army and lifts up his units, which ones should you focus fire? Lifted immortals and sentrys is obvious, but I'm talking more about the Stalkeras. Should you focus the ones on the ground or the ones in the air?


Lift immortals and sentries, but don't focus fire them. Focus on killing everything left on the ground and just relift the immortals. With immortals and sentries out of action you will clean up their ground forces in notime, and then you can focus on the few tattered remains.
Puzo
Profile Joined June 2011
5 Posts
May 26 2012 21:43 GMT
#4850
Hey guys, really working on my mechanics at the moment to hopefully be able to boost myself into diamond. One way I am doing this is playing out the first 10 minutes over and over again doing just one build to try and work on probe production, keeping money low and all of that. I've got some good results and from the first time I did it I've managed to squeeze out 8 more probes and an overall increase of 15 supply (going by my last results). However, does anybody know, given constant probe production how many you would be able to make in 10 minutes? Just trying to get a benchmark set!

If anyone in masters or with a replay of a pro doing so would be able to check how many probes they're capable of making in 10 minutes, doing a standard PvT build, and would let me know, I'd be very thankful.
-MoOsE-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States236 Posts
May 27 2012 01:42 GMT
#4851
Hey I am having troubles holding a third in pvz right now. I feel like if the zerg just goes for a mass attack I lose

Are there any builds out there with a defendable 3rd that you can link.

Thanks
The King in the North Fighting
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 27 2012 01:54 GMT
#4852
On May 27 2012 10:42 -MoOsE- wrote:
Hey I am having troubles holding a third in pvz right now. I feel like if the zerg just goes for a mass attack I lose

Are there any builds out there with a defendable 3rd that you can link.

Thanks

What's wrong with the builds I wrote about?
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-MoOsE-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 02:12:52
May 27 2012 02:04 GMT
#4853
nevermind
The King in the North Fighting
-MoOsE-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States236 Posts
May 27 2012 02:12 GMT
#4854
ok here are some of my replays of my games trying to take a third.

http://drop.sc/186507
http://drop.sc/186506
http://drop.sc/186505
The King in the North Fighting
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 04:57:46
May 27 2012 02:17 GMT
#4855
On May 27 2012 11:12 -MoOsE- wrote:
ok here are some of my replays of my games trying to take a third.

http://drop.sc/186507
http://drop.sc/186506
http://drop.sc/186505

Don't just post games. Analyze what you did and what you think you did wrong in each game.

Edit: I glanced at your first game and noticed a lot of mistakes. However, you lost because you got outplayed in the mid-late game, not because of your inability to take a 3rd.
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 27 2012 03:02 GMT
#4856
On May 27 2012 06:43 Puzo wrote:
Hey guys, really working on my mechanics at the moment to hopefully be able to boost myself into diamond. One way I am doing this is playing out the first 10 minutes over and over again doing just one build to try and work on probe production, keeping money low and all of that. I've got some good results and from the first time I did it I've managed to squeeze out 8 more probes and an overall increase of 15 supply (going by my last results). However, does anybody know, given constant probe production how many you would be able to make in 10 minutes? Just trying to get a benchmark set!

If anyone in masters or with a replay of a pro doing so would be able to check how many probes they're capable of making in 10 minutes, doing a standard PvT build, and would let me know, I'd be very thankful.

Why don't you just do it yourself? It takes more effort to check a replay than to post this. Anyways, from my BO notebook, i have 77 supply with 49 probes for a standard 2 base Parting opening. This is about as many probes you would have with a standard 2 base Protoss opening, but you usually will have more units with some other openings.
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VoO
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany278 Posts
May 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#4857
Master league PvT, T goes marauder-heavy 1:1 ratio. What to do?
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grapedog
Profile Joined August 2010
United States151 Posts
May 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#4858
when vortex goes away during HOTS, whats a legitimate counter to the late game zerg bl/corruptor/infestor composition army?
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#4859
On May 27 2012 20:27 grapedog wrote:
when vortex goes away during HOTS, whats a legitimate counter to the late game zerg bl/corruptor/infestor composition army?


what Ace did in the GSL U/D vs BboongBboong - abuse the Broodlords immobility and harass/take out bases, then recall back to safety to save your forces

-MoOsE-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States236 Posts
May 27 2012 14:05 GMT
#4860
I think the new unit that replaces the carrier is supposed to be able to fight the broodlord comp, but thats just what I got out of its description
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