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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 11:35:55
October 11 2011 11:34 GMT
#141
On October 11 2011 11:15 CecilSunkure wrote:
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On October 11 2011 01:58 Teoita wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:40 CecilSunkure wrote:
On October 06 2011 06:20 CecilSunkure wrote:
Updated the OP quite a bit. Robo first is the only way I play this anymore, and I also talked about Blink/Immortal -> Colossus, as this is getting really popular (Immortal portion of this is optional). I have a replay or two to add later, so check back soon to get them!

Sorry it took a while, added a replay of me playing on ladder last night. This is how you should be using Blink to punish people doing the ever popular Immortal Expand.


Would you also allin an immortal expand if you went robo first and made a few immortals? I find that i can hit with blink and about 3 immortals ready right as his nexus finishes at around 9 mins, and that's often enough to overwhelm anyone without blink (if he's going 3gate robo expand; i have never faced an expo as fast as the one in the replay you posted).

I do not know! Sorry!

Here's a replay to analyze for you guys! See if you can figure out what I did wrong to lose this Blink game: http://drop.sc/42993

+ Show Spoiler [Answers] +
-I was too fast to blink away from the battle when I charged up his ramp with Stalkers. I probably could have picked off a couple Sentries with better control.
-My army was slightly too late to cut him off as he tried to walk down his ramp for the first time. This caused me to lose my change to pick off a free 5-6 Stalkers. Very bad engagement due to this.
-Didn't get up enough gates for my Expo (2 were idle at a key moment), and cancelled my templar archives???



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Since you know he has invested in a forge and lost his expo, which means he isn't going to be aggressive for a while, doesn't it make sense to also expand faster than you did? Despite you killing off his expo, you had a relatively low probe count, with a faster expo you might have had more units to hold off his immortal push.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
October 11 2011 15:57 GMT
#142
On October 11 2011 20:34 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 11:15 CecilSunkure wrote:
On October 11 2011 01:58 Teoita wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:40 CecilSunkure wrote:
On October 06 2011 06:20 CecilSunkure wrote:
Updated the OP quite a bit. Robo first is the only way I play this anymore, and I also talked about Blink/Immortal -> Colossus, as this is getting really popular (Immortal portion of this is optional). I have a replay or two to add later, so check back soon to get them!

Sorry it took a while, added a replay of me playing on ladder last night. This is how you should be using Blink to punish people doing the ever popular Immortal Expand.


Would you also allin an immortal expand if you went robo first and made a few immortals? I find that i can hit with blink and about 3 immortals ready right as his nexus finishes at around 9 mins, and that's often enough to overwhelm anyone without blink (if he's going 3gate robo expand; i have never faced an expo as fast as the one in the replay you posted).

I do not know! Sorry!

Here's a replay to analyze for you guys! See if you can figure out what I did wrong to lose this Blink game: http://drop.sc/42993

+ Show Spoiler [Answers] +
-I was too fast to blink away from the battle when I charged up his ramp with Stalkers. I probably could have picked off a couple Sentries with better control.
-My army was slightly too late to cut him off as he tried to walk down his ramp for the first time. This caused me to lose my change to pick off a free 5-6 Stalkers. Very bad engagement due to this.
-Didn't get up enough gates for my Expo (2 were idle at a key moment), and cancelled my templar archives???



+ Show Spoiler +
Since you know he has invested in a forge and lost his expo, which means he isn't going to be aggressive for a while, doesn't it make sense to also expand faster than you did? Despite you killing off his expo, you had a relatively low probe count, with a faster expo you might have had more units to hold off his immortal push.

Oh good point! I definitely could have tried to expo faster instead of trying to just kill him, and failing really hard lol.
HexSCII
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada115 Posts
March 13 2012 02:54 GMT
#143
Is it viable to get a dark shrine rather than a templar archives? I am not sure how strong storm is against deathballs but wouldn't dts allow you to get more map control. I may even cause your opponent to make mistakes from not having enough observers in the map/moving the entire army to deal with dt harass which opens up the blink into main/natural. Heck, if you are smart enough, when you engage, you can snipe their observer and let the dts deal the damage.

Plus, I think that dts would be cheaper on the gas than templars. 50 gas per archon if I am correct.
Nexus first or die trying. partinG/MC/oz/Squirtle/Nani/ HerO
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 13 2012 03:20 GMT
#144
On March 13 2012 11:54 HexSCII wrote:
Is it viable to get a dark shrine rather than a templar archives? I am not sure how strong storm is against deathballs but wouldn't dts allow you to get more map control. I may even cause your opponent to make mistakes from not having enough observers in the map/moving the entire army to deal with dt harass which opens up the blink into main/natural. Heck, if you are smart enough, when you engage, you can snipe their observer and let the dts deal the damage.

Plus, I think that dts would be cheaper on the gas than templars. 50 gas per archon if I am correct.

You should check out my profile and use ctrl + f on "DT".
HexSCII
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada115 Posts
March 13 2012 03:28 GMT
#145
ahh so sorry xD
Nexus first or die trying. partinG/MC/oz/Squirtle/Nani/ HerO
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