[G] Using Baneling Mines Effectively (w/Pictures!) - Page 2
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Zebrapudding
United States66 Posts
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MrRicewife
Canada515 Posts
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meep
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
I enjoyed the humour and the facts. But! I did not like the overall topic, because I AM A TERRAN PLAYER. Oh well, I was starting to have ravens in that matchup anyawys. Baneling landmines can win you the game easily. When those marines are gone it's pew pew for the mutalisks to clean everything up. I still don't understand why Zerg players use this more. In GSL I have seen every single pro player start doing the mines but not on ladder. | ||
Grr Arr Rawr
United States108 Posts
On July 26 2011 10:38 MonsieurGrimm wrote: Here are some examples of effective lures: i. Overlords ![]() Retard magnets, how I doth love thee. On a more serious note, this is an excellent post. There are so many things like this in SC2 that remain largely unexplored (for every race, but mostly for Zerg, I feel) and should be standard play, but just... aren't. It makes me really excited for the future of the game, though, when you think about how awesome and entertaining it is as spectator sport right NOW, and then consider how much better it will be when exciting stuff like baneling mines, Ravens, and (dare I say it) Motherships see more regular use in play. As well, since this is fresh in my mind (having just seen it), this entire match is a good example of great baneling placement: Spanishiwa vs DDE (Sunday Night Fights) Game 3 As the OP said, Baneling Mines are not a strategy you should ever count on to win you the game, but it's a pretty small investment for the potentially massive payoff, particularly in the mid-late game where resources are plentiful. edit: That VOD does not appear to be ready quite yet, but the link is right for whenever it fully uploads to the archive. | ||
Optimist
Australia161 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On July 26 2011 12:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote: thanks for the positive comments guys :D it really means a lot (Whole can tell you) yeah I considered this as well, if you go 15 hatch 15 pool 17 gas and then with that gas you go speed -> baneling nest -> lair and then add more extractors when you start your lair and then when lair finishes get burrow immediately you can have it around that 10:00 push timing. however, you can't really use that to be any greedier because if Terran saves scans or prevents the mines from getting in place, you're kind of fucked. Maybe you can check for saved scans ahead of time with an ovie, though... it seems very map-dependent but it might work on maps like Xel'Naga or that stupid new lava map. Oh wow, that's pretty fleshed out. Against that timing, I've read that roach/ling/bane is strong, since saving money for muta/infestor will get you killed. However, I like to idea of just having the mines out for some extra punch, and it's always nice to delay attacks as zerg, since I can't tell you how many times I've been caught pants down after a huge 12 drone cycle. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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Morning
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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dlcofls21
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Good guide btw :3. | ||
MaBe
United States97 Posts
Afaik, GSL is the only tourney play, I've seen, where a player uses banemines. It's like you said very situational risk that can become a huge pay out. Better call to the heart of the cards for it to pay out or at least gain valuable scouting info. Well done guide, the pics were awesome. | ||
Lmui
Canada6207 Posts
Good placement locations include Just outside the terran's natural (Most terrans do not scan at all until they first hit creep or are halfway across the map.) Luring using infestors. I think baiting with infestors, you actually want to use an infestor with one fungal so that any marines that do not die to the landmine will be severely injured. | ||
Paper117
United States210 Posts
On July 26 2011 13:23 dlcofls21 wrote: Something I do in almost all of my TvZ's is burrow 2 sets of 2 blings at the Terran's 3rd base mineral line. After they transfer then Boom! Good guide btw :3. Yeah! I try to do it in other match ups too, but Protoss sometimes have cannons up before there's a worthwhile amount of probes there. I've killed a ton of drones though. | ||
Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
![]() Also, where did you get the picture of my van from? Jk, jk ![]() | ||
ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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Darathor
United States327 Posts
Again, very well put-together guide! Thanks! | ||
Janders
Mexico222 Posts
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
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