[D] The Official Unofficial 2v2 Thread - Page 6

On August 09 2011 02:14 Crysack wrote:
My friend and I are attempting to make our way to the top of the SEA ladder over the next few days and we really aren't far off. If anyone is interested, I can upload some replays.

In the meantime, here's an amusing replay which shows why you should never tap out. Please excuse the astronomical screw up with my forcefields. My sentry somehow got stuck a millimetre too far to the right and wouldn't throw down the second FF.

On August 09 2011 19:32 aztecx wrote:


I have a fair bit of experience playing against ArtOfLosing because he's one of the few 2v2r players my teams can que against. He's basically just a one trick pony since he goes ling/bling all-in every game. Meta-game him and he's fucked.

On August 09 2011 00:39 Squigly wrote:


Its generally accepted that you need a zerg. And the you dont want teams of two of the same race. Esp not PP

TZ is currently ranked highest on the points list, however that may be due to the fact that those guys are very good.

Pretty much PZ or TZ is accepted as being the best. But its not like you cant do well without it. Im masters with over 50-50 win rate with TP

On August 10 2011 09:53 Lobotomist wrote:
I've been struggling with TZ vs TT recently. It's very difficult to do most timing attacks vs TT teams, and tanks counts get high very, very quickly. Also, I really don't know how to play when big tank lines get set up.

Also, transience, I really like that build, especially the 15 hatch 16 gas 16 pool, which is one of my favorite builds vs any team with protoss that isn't proxying or cannon rushing.

I'm not so sure about this. I think a lot of this attitude is a hold-over from Broodwar where zerg was considered very strong, even necessary, as part of a 2v2 team. TZ early game can be really strong, but zerg mid-late doesn't fair as well against the large numbers of big splash units that come into play (tanks, collosi, etc).

On August 09 2011 20:34 transience wrote:
Because TP doesn't have a lot of very scary very early rushes, I feel safe to go hatchery first on these big shared base maps. I like to go 15 hatchery 16 extractor 16 pool and get metabolic boost immediately, so I can have speed at a reasonable time (before 6:00) in case we decide to go speedling/hellion. If they have a wall, I will drone up to +/- 30 while still mining gas, while making double queens and a roach warren, then start saving up resources and supply for roaches. I like to get all my roaches in one or two big pumps and move out with them immediately. Because of the distances involved, I usually cut roach production after my first wave and switch into mass speedlings to help defend our tanks. The tank line coupled with my quick reinforcements are usually enough to seal the deal.

On August 10 2011 11:40 Aqtinic wrote:


We run TP and are #3 in our masters division. To counter the quick hatch I toss down a quick forge and 1 cannon the expo hatch. Work 80% of the time, then we use this to toss down our own nats.

On August 30 2011 09:53 Vanchen wrote:
Played some games today, top of the ladder pretty much.

TP: open 2 gate voids and BFH marauder TZ: 14 14 into roach and expand and 3 rax
Low supplies all game, barely expo till near the end. I find that even if you get contained to 1 base and your oppenent expands, there is still much larger chance of winning than if it had happened in a 1v1.


Go mech and bio, vs a fastish muta, very back and forth. I kind of get carried in this game.


Vs. a team with a zerg, most of the time they will try and break down your wall early and flood with speedlings for the kill. We have to bunker off or else you WILL die.

On August 30 2011 12:04 Belisarius wrote:
So, this is both a really noob and really general question, but I'm not sure where else to ask it.

A friend and I play a fair number of 2v2s, pretty damn badly, but I'm always at a loss as to how to actually respond to things. I find myself thinking in terms of 1v1 builds and timings, and sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. I feel like I have no game sense and no real idea how I should be adapting what I do, and how it should be different.

I generally end up calling strats etc, since my partner's like silver, but I often find myself telling him to expand/drone/roach at the worst possible times because those times would be appropriate to 1v1 but really don't work 2v2.

So in short... are there any good, general build resources or overviews floating around out there? We're usually PZ, and I don't have too many replays of that combo, nor any idea of how to analyse decision-making processes if I did.

ftr I'm dia 1v1, so I at least have a very basic understanding of how stuff works. I'm failing hard at adapting to 2v2, though.

On August 30 2011 14:58 Zariel wrote:
I went on an 11 game winning streak with my friend. We jumped from rank 50 diamond to rank 1 after all those games but we were beating teamed masters fairly easily.

As a protoss player, primary build I used was defensive 4 gate and having 1 sentry, 2 zealot, 1 stalker when my warpgate completes and dropping gates at 27/34 supply. While my ally goes for a 2 rax, 1 fact, marine tank build.

I believe that this build is quite powerful because we have Tanks for the AoE, Marines for DPS (especially against lings) and I can alter my army composition of zealot, sentry, stalker to cater for the situation and matchups. Our general hit time is about 7-7:30, usually moving out when 2 tanks are in our army and siege mode completed.

On August 30 2011 15:35 Crysack wrote:


4gate is massive overkill in my opinion. Most of my openings are some form of 3gate (unless I do something with a stargate or something) and they hold pretty much everything.

On August 30 2011 12:04 Belisarius wrote:
So, this is both a really noob and really general question, but I'm not sure where else to ask it.

A friend and I play a fair number of 2v2s, pretty damn badly, but I'm always at a loss as to how to actually respond to things. I find myself thinking in terms of 1v1 builds and timings, and sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. I feel like I have no game sense and no real idea how I should be adapting what I do, and how it should be different.

I generally end up calling strats etc, since my partner's like silver, but I often find myself telling him to expand/drone/roach at the worst possible times because those times would be appropriate to 1v1 but really don't work 2v2.

So in short... are there any good, general build resources or overviews floating around out there? We're usually PZ, and I don't have too many replays of that combo, nor any idea of how to analyse decision-making processes if I did.

ftr I'm dia 1v1, so I at least have a very basic understanding of how stuff works. I'm failing hard at adapting to 2v2, though.