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Ireland33 Posts
August 23 2011 09:31 GMT
#101
I'm afraid I must disagree with Sanctimonious too.

Having played vs. a lot of wall-in tactics on various maps (not just Tal'Darim), there's a reason why MLG maps have a neutral supply depot to block most ramp wall-ins. There's also a reason why ALL pro-level zerg players react immediately to potential cannon and bunker rushes - because allowing the bunker/cannons to finish puts the Zerg at a HUGE disadvantage.

I think the crucial problem here is that cannon and bunker wall ins are a "cheesy" tactic, but if the initial push doesn't go so well or it's scouted too early, you can easily cancel the structures and come out with almost zero cost - Zero cost to the attacker, but a huge mineral (and psychological!) advantage.

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United States194 Posts
August 23 2011 21:11 GMT
#102
On August 23 2011 16:09 LesPhoques wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 00:45 EvilZergling wrote:
I have problems with this also, I think everyone does from time to time.

To be clear, it can happen at any time and you have to make sure that you are prepared for such things. Doing the 'safe' speedling expand doesn't guarantee your safety from this type of thing either. Protoss can still plant cannons and pylons to contain you while they freely expand and macro up a powerful economy leaving you way too far behind to catch up.
Had a game just last night where I did the safe speedling expand and protoss contained me within my own base not at the bottom of the ramp but actually build within my own base at the top of the ramp so many pylons and cannons I thought he was all in with this cannon attempt. I broke it down eventually but by the time I did he already had 2 very strong bases and 6 warpgates already up and just crushed me.

The lesson is just assume this is going to happen every time and be very diligent in preventing it.


Was it me? It was a game where you want mutas off 1 base against my phoenix play (wtf) then mass roach off 1 base against my voidrays. High masters, right?



Yeah I think it probably was you haha. I knew I was going to lose the second it happened I normally just leave but I was in a good mood and decided I'd play it out and well... shit happens .
CC first, or die trying. [http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438152#11]
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