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On June 29 2011 08:59 Derez wrote:
It's a funky and surprising build, I'll give you that.
I feel that if I play someone that has seen this build before, he is capable of holding it easily, and you have a long long time to scout it before the first reaper is out. On most ladder maps (excluding TDA and possibly typhon?), an SCV will reach your main. This gives more then enough time for your opponent to prepare perfectly and you end up behind. Your opponent will be either up in tech in case of 1-1-1, or up in economy in case of a quick FE. You're then left with 3 fairly useless reaper, who act as your threat of counterattack until there's 2 tanks.
It's got very high 'shock' value, and might be slightly better if you proxy a 1 rax, to hope your opponent prepares for a 1 rax reaper (rines on cliffs), but when trying that myself recently I'm hitting opponents that prepare for this build even if they only scout 1 lab.
I think it will die out in a couple of weeks on the ladder, only to then return as the occasional cheese to see if people still remember how to hold it.
most bio builds stops this, but like i said. you only need to take off a few scvs and you'll come out ahead.
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I really like this build, thank you for sharing it!
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nice, i will try it too :D
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I played you on ladder earlier, this is the build I was talking about =] ^^^
This opener is really good, almost metagame breaking like iEchoic's 2fact2port was. I think they pretty much have to be doing some sort of tank opening to be able to deal with the reapers. Or marauder openings, but like, no one ever does that in TvT
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On July 01 2011 16:49 ChuckJagoda wrote:
I played you on ladder earlier, this is the build I was talking about =] ^^^
This opener is really good, almost metagame breaking like iEchoic's 2fact2port was. I think they pretty much have to be doing some sort of tank opening to be able to deal with the reapers. Or marauder openings, but like, no one ever does that in TvT
heheh, thats true. Its rare to see marauder opener tvt. btw.. i'm streaming currently and i do this build a lot while i'm streaming so stay tuned guys =]
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In diamond I have seen several people try this but they must butcher the timings lol, I usually go reaper expand into factory so the 3 reapers should hard counter it. I might have to try it myself soon, Im sure I can execute it better haha ;p
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On July 03 2011 14:01 Nexic wrote:
In diamond I have seen several people try this but they must butcher the timings lol, I usually go reaper expand into factory so the 3 reapers should hard counter it. I might have to try it myself soon, Im sure I can execute it better haha ;p
Oo.. your reaper expand build stops this build?
can you post replays?
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On July 03 2011 20:13 PrideTV wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2011 14:01 Nexic wrote:
In diamond I have seen several people try this but they must butcher the timings lol, I usually go reaper expand into factory so the 3 reapers should hard counter it. I might have to try it myself soon, Im sure I can execute it better haha ;p Oo.. your reaper expand build stops this build? can you post replays?
I think he was trying to say that his reaper expo gets hard countered by this 3 reaper opening.
In all the TvT's I've played so far with this build, I've never lost. Big props for creating this. Even when early marauders and early tanks come out, the reapers are so fast that I can safely swing around the base picking SCVs off. Micro is key ^^
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somebody tried this build on eu ladder vs. me....i raped it hard with 1-1-1 banshee expand :D
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On July 04 2011 03:14 gwaihir wrote:
somebody tried this build on eu ladder vs. me....i raped it hard with 1-1-1 banshee expand :D
Could you plz upload replay so we can see what he did wrong / you did right?
ty!
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Has anyone thought about adapting it for team play? It seems like a great 2v2 harass opener...
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When I encounter this, normally I counter attack with a blue flame hellion drop or cloaked banshee, either of which will kill more workers than 3 Reapers will.
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Didnt thorzain do this to someone a while ago? I think it was thorzain at least. I remember the game was on shattered temple.
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On July 04 2011 03:14 gwaihir wrote:
somebody tried this build on eu ladder vs. me....i raped it hard with 1-1-1 banshee expand :D
... that's like the one build that is completely vulnerable to this kind of play, especially on maps like caverns, by the time your banshee comes out you would have no scvs left.
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I've been preaching for some time now that reapers are good at almost any situation in tvt not just the opening. Apparently the pros seem to catch up now. 
Joking aside this opening is very map dependant. You will get the best results on Temple and Meta close air.
It helps scouting this position first (only in tvt of course).
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Yes, it's totally map dependant, someone tried to 3 reaper rush me on shakuras and it failed hard, because there is really two way to enter the base. 4 marines were enough to take down the reapers.
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I love this build, You really make me want to go terran :D
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i have been seeing this so much lol
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