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Rybread
Profile Joined September 2010
62 Posts
June 13 2011 04:05 GMT
#61
LOL @ the comments about APM. I'm not sure they even read it. I read it, one time I was doing this (before I read this thread, just doing like 4q4qq4qqq (4 hatch, qq drones with GRID hotkeys ))
My dad was like "Practicing piano?" I was like "...Starcraft hotkeys" he was like ">"
Rybread
Profile Joined September 2010
62 Posts
June 13 2011 04:06 GMT
#62
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
June 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#63
On June 13 2011 13:06 Rybread wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM


So true!!!

By the way, can anyone here play "Flight of the Bumblebee" decently? Some of the drills my friend gave me for the song are what the drills here are based on lol
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
SonSon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States106 Posts
June 13 2011 04:35 GMT
#64
Thanks for this wonderful info OP. Trying it now.
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
June 13 2011 04:49 GMT
#65
Guys I made the video! Will attempt to put on computer...
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
ZarMulix
Profile Joined October 2010
United States77 Posts
June 13 2011 11:24 GMT
#66
On June 13 2011 13:25 XDJuicebox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:06 Rybread wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM


So true!!!

By the way, can anyone here play "Flight of the Bumblebee" decently? Some of the drills my friend gave me for the song are what the drills here are based on lol

On guitar, but I don't really play piano.
MuffinCookie
Profile Joined February 2011
China64 Posts
June 13 2011 12:27 GMT
#67
Freak of nature? What is this nonsense?

You sir, are completely awesome. I'm apparently a weird zerg, because I set all my hatcheries on 1, all my queens on 2, my scouting overlord on 3, and my army/tech on from 4-7.

With these exercises, I might be able to finally reach 8-9. :D
Zoom out, and then zoom back in.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 13 2011 13:32 GMT
#68
On June 13 2011 21:27 MuffinCookie wrote:
Freak of nature? What is this nonsense?

You sir, are completely awesome. I'm apparently a weird zerg, because I set all my hatcheries on 1, all my queens on 2, my scouting overlord on 3, and my army/tech on from 4-7.

With these exercises, I might be able to finally reach 8-9. :D


Don't feel weird, I'm pretty sure that some BW pros did the same thing with their army being on 4-7.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
June 13 2011 13:56 GMT
#69
On June 13 2011 13:06 Rybread wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM
Your serious? You don't need to practice hand speed by mashing keys, all this guide is doing for you is a quick trip to RSI. I could pick any combination of my hotkeys and mash away to 450 apm blindly, it means absolutely nothing.

"speed" comes with knowing what you are doing, if you play often and pick up on more of what you should be doing, your hands will follow suit as you learn what they need to be doing. Anybody can reach the required APM to be a masters level player, or possibly above as is.

Hand speed, APM whatever you want to call it for the guides sake, is just an trap people get caught in trying to be fast like the "pros" and looking for a way to improve without actually playing the game.

There is no better practice then playing the game, period.
~
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 14:07:27
June 13 2011 14:03 GMT
#70
On June 13 2011 22:56 uSnAmplified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:06 Rybread wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM
Your serious? You don't need to practice hand speed by mashing keys, all this guide is doing for you is a quick trip to RSI. I could pick any combination of my hotkeys and mash away to 450 apm blindly, it means absolutely nothing.

"speed" comes with knowing what you are doing, if you play often and pick up on more of what you should be doing, your hands will follow suit as you learn what they need to be doing. Anybody can reach the required APM to be a masters level player, or possibly above as is.

Hand speed, APM whatever you want to call it for the guides sake, is just an trap people get caught in trying to be fast like the "pros" and looking for a way to improve without actually playing the game.

There is no better practice then playing the game, period.


Yes there is no better way to get better at starcraft but to play starcraft.....

But eventaully once your good enough your hands may not be able to move as fast as your thoughts.
Example: Your microing two places at once but still need to macro. There is no way that you can handle that with slow hands. Your right though this isnt a #1 priority for improving for starcraft but the guide still has merit

Edit*
Hand speed and apm are different. You can have fast hands and have low apm. You can perform less actions faster. On the other side you can have high apm but have much slower hands. Hand speed isn`t spamming hotkeys. The reason the pros spam hotkeys at the start of the match is to keep their hands warm so their able to move fast on their keyboards when they need to do actual movements
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
June 14 2011 00:35 GMT
#71
On June 13 2011 23:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:56 uSnAmplified wrote:
On June 13 2011 13:06 Rybread wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM
Your serious? You don't need to practice hand speed by mashing keys, all this guide is doing for you is a quick trip to RSI. I could pick any combination of my hotkeys and mash away to 450 apm blindly, it means absolutely nothing.

"speed" comes with knowing what you are doing, if you play often and pick up on more of what you should be doing, your hands will follow suit as you learn what they need to be doing. Anybody can reach the required APM to be a masters level player, or possibly above as is.

Hand speed, APM whatever you want to call it for the guides sake, is just an trap people get caught in trying to be fast like the "pros" and looking for a way to improve without actually playing the game.

There is no better practice then playing the game, period.


Yes there is no better way to get better at starcraft but to play starcraft.....

But eventaully once your good enough your hands may not be able to move as fast as your thoughts.
Example: Your microing two places at once but still need to macro. There is no way that you can handle that with slow hands. Your right though this isnt a #1 priority for improving for starcraft but the guide still has merit

Edit*
Hand speed and apm are different. You can have fast hands and have low apm. You can perform less actions faster. On the other side you can have high apm but have much slower hands. Hand speed isn`t spamming hotkeys. The reason the pros spam hotkeys at the start of the match is to keep their hands warm so their able to move fast on their keyboards when they need to do actual movements


Yeah...the point of this thread wasn't to make you a better Starcraft player, it was just to make you have fast hands.

I'll put you on the <3 list for that :D
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
June 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#72
On June 13 2011 22:56 uSnAmplified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:06 Rybread wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:33 uSnAmplified wrote:
No offense but you even say yourself you are platinum, learning to span faster is not the key to being good at this game, APM is worthless if their is no meaningful action behind it.


It's not about APM it's about hand speed. Did you even read it. Brain speed + Hand Speed = Good APM
Your serious? You don't need to practice hand speed by mashing keys, all this guide is doing for you is a quick trip to RSI. I could pick any combination of my hotkeys and mash away to 450 apm blindly, it means absolutely nothing.

"speed" comes with knowing what you are doing, if you play often and pick up on more of what you should be doing, your hands will follow suit as you learn what they need to be doing. Anybody can reach the required APM to be a masters level player, or possibly above as is.

Hand speed, APM whatever you want to call it for the guides sake, is just an trap people get caught in trying to be fast like the "pros" and looking for a way to improve without actually playing the game.

There is no better practice then playing the game, period.


I haven't gotten RSI yet, but that's probably because I take really good care of my wrists because my piano teacher makes me lol. Guess I should've written that up here.

These exercises were derived from piano exercises that my friend gave me, because I noticed they dramatically improved my playing, so I thought I could share them with you guys. Could you mash your way to 450 APM with just your ring finger and pinky? I'd like to see this.

This isn't about how fast you play the game, it's about how fast you actually do the things. Not how fast you can transition between them, or how many things your mind tells you to do.

For example, it's me getting you to build a pylon faster, or to hotkey your units faster.

There is indeed no better practice than playing the game. If you actually read the entire thread, it says somewhere that these are for you to do when you're stuck in traffic, super bored, etc...

Not trying to be big meanie, I just happen to come off as one a lot :/
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Snod
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia27 Posts
June 14 2011 01:02 GMT
#73
This gives me something useful to do while reading TL at work.
www.twitch.tv/thesnod
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
June 14 2011 03:18 GMT
#74
Snod

By the way, can someone tell me more about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and how it comes with Starcraft 2?
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
June 14 2011 03:25 GMT
#75
Thanks for contributing Juicbox. I like the way you think. If I'm ever not driving while I'm in a car I'll think of this. Heck I might just do this while I drive
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
June 14 2011 03:27 GMT
#76
sweet guide, i have always had fast hand speed though =] from years of playing Counter strike to help with my reactions and brood war
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
June 14 2011 04:43 GMT
#77
Awesome OP. So yea my hands hurt now. WTF
ponyo.848
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
June 14 2011 05:02 GMT
#78
On June 14 2011 13:43 Ponyo wrote:
Awesome OP. So yea my hands hurt now. WTF


How do they hurt? Like what kind of pain?

Because you're not supposed to put a lot of force behind it...just to do the motion fast. And don't do this for like 8 hours straight...even elite piano players take breaks
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
June 15 2011 00:28 GMT
#79
Here's a simple little python app I made for myself:
Pretty straight forward, type the pattern you want to match in the top box and repeat it til your fingers are sore in the bottom box.

[image loading]

http://codepad.org/SmZPcLvD
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
7sk
Profile Joined August 2010
United States55 Posts
June 15 2011 00:43 GMT
#80
Awesome guide - Interestingly I'm teaching myself to play piano and I feel my handspeed in game increasing as I improve at piano. I guess they are both keyboards ;]
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