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FataLe
New Zealand4529 Posts
On August 12 2011 02:41 thisisSSK wrote: You're username is apt... why are you giving combatex attention. I'm certain there are better vids out there to link Combat-Ex is very knowledgable in the game, far more than you or I. Don't hate, see the video for what it is: Quality help. His name is irrelevant. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
the tricky thing is you have to scout no gas, which is tough on 4 player maps check out this new transition- speed prism colo harass :p http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=16323 | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
I tweak my gas intake so that I can drop my nexus before starting warpgate though, which means the nexus finishes at the same time as my warpgates. This can be quite useful in case I need to respond to sudden aggression which I scouted after starting this build: I simply stop probes at 22 and drop 3 gates since I don't need a 3rd pylon anytime soon. The build is also safe against standard terran play on maps that are big enough. | ||
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pezzaperry
142 Posts
Is this build still a viable PvT build? My own 1gate expand that I made is a bit greedy and doesn't involve a huge probe cut, a couple of bunkers can sometimes kill me. This one seems safer, but I want to know that it's one of the best at the moment. I really like the counter pressure and such, and I can see how you delay mining gas for a bit just to have 50 for the cyber and an extra 50 for the first stalker, quite smart. | ||
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GomJabbar
United States161 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On December 07 2011 02:46 GomJabbar wrote: I've been messing with this build lately against no gas FEs. As soon as I see no gas or an SCV heading to Terran's natural, I cancel anything building in my gateway and pull a guy off gas. It seems to me like the only way to get the nexus down at relatively the same time as a Terran if they CC on the low ground. I think against a gas build it's not so good. The build gets the robo and 2nd gas later than other 1 gate FEs, and relies only on stalkers early on, so marauders or banshees can be pretty dangerous. If you do the build well, ie have exactly 50 gas when the cyber finishes, you can make the nexus before the cyber finishes which is about the same time as a gasless FE. On maps where this build is good you usually don't want to tech super fast into robo anyway, especially with the dual forge style there should be no rush. If you want you can still go robo fairly quickly though by simply going straight from 1 to 3 gas. | ||
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ImpacTius
Germany5 Posts
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CCalms
United States341 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:51 ImpacTius wrote: Is this build still viable? If you ask questions like that, then it doesn't matter what the build is, if it was once viable then it will still be viable for you. | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:51 ImpacTius wrote: Is this build still viable? CCalms is right in a way. My 2 cents is basically Terrans know what it looks like, and engi bay block like no tomorrow. This is a big deal when your first unit is a stalker that comes pretty late. I don't think it's to be done high level, just look into MC 1gate expand. | ||
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Chemist391
United States366 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:13 tehemperorer wrote: CCalms is right in a way. My 2 cents is basically Terrans know what it looks like, and engi bay block like no tomorrow. This is a big deal when your first unit is a stalker that comes pretty late. I don't think it's to be done high level, just look into MC 1gate expand. Put a probe on the SCV and start building a zealot out of your gateway. You can cancel the zealot at the last second, but the T can't know whether you're going to or not. If he decides to eng block (which would be weird..) then let the zealot finish, proceed with an MC-style 1gate FE. If he doesn't block, cancel the zealot and go for the HuK build. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
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bgalang92
United States155 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:13 tehemperorer wrote: CCalms is right in a way. My 2 cents is basically Terrans know what it looks like, and engi bay block like no tomorrow. This is a big deal when your first unit is a stalker that comes pretty late. I don't think it's to be done high level, just look into MC 1gate expand. CCalms is trying to say if you even need to ask if it's viable and can't make the judgement call with your own experience, then you aren't at a high enough skill level when the build would no longer be relevant. | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:59 bgalang92 wrote: CCalms is trying to say if you even need to ask if it's viable and can't make the judgement call with your own experience, then you aren't at a high enough skill level when the build would no longer be relevant. Correct. | ||
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Raggamuffinoo
United Kingdom117 Posts
Cut probes at 24/26 with a stalker building, add two gates, get a 25/26 pylon and a 26 second gas followed by a robo (27ish) "Warpgate Expand" @SC2Planner | ||
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gabapenteado
Brazil37 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:51 ImpacTius wrote: Is this build still viable? I do it all the time in the ladder, at a mid-diamond level. Against masters practice partners it also works really well, followed by a double forge if i see a fast CC. | ||
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sLaPaHoE
Dominican Republic1 Post
Today i have a 6-1 streak with this build and i think i just mastered it... here is my last game versus a terran i saw he had 1 rax and early gas so i figured he would expand.. i managed to kill him in 8 minutes just like the guide says! Please watch my replay and give me some feedback and tips if im doing something wrong, Also a quick question.. if i see my opponent is going to rush me how can i counter this? thanks alot http://drop.sc/202093 | ||
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