How can you feel bad about a coin flip?
[G] (T) 3 racks : Cheesing your way to GM league - Page 54
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
How can you feel bad about a coin flip? | ||
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prutz
Netherlands52 Posts
yes you are right ^^ i just FKD it up in ladder i gues cuz when you look at it it seems that there is a gap so i misplaced my depo xd :D:Dthnx alot for this build anyway :D | ||
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Fiendish
United States210 Posts
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Deezer
Canada73 Posts
CombatEX and RatzDeezer made it to high Grandmasters b/c of the cannon rush and proxy warpgate and stargate. By your rationale, we have no right to rebut anything they have to say about SC2 b/c they're ranked higher than us even though they're horrible players with cheesy builds. I'm sick of people making the fallacy of authority, but it's easier to attack someone's credibility than to address his argument. It really sad to said someting you have no idea. My macro is prolly better then alot of gm player , so before talking shit do some research. Its fine your prob 12. Totally forgiven you User was warned for this post | ||
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On July 15 2011 06:45 Deezer wrote: CombatEX and RatzDeezer made it to high Grandmasters b/c of the cannon rush and proxy warpgate and stargate. By your rationale, we have no right to rebut anything they have to say about SC2 b/c they're ranked higher than us even though they're horrible players with cheesy builds. I'm sick of people making the fallacy of authority, but it's easier to attack someone's credibility than to address his argument.[/QUOTE] It really sad to said someting you have no idea. My macro is prolly better then alot of gm player , so before talking shit do some research. Its fine your prob 12. Totally forgiven you [/QUOTE] You're right. Most people can't build cannons and proxy gateway units while watching their opponent's stream as well as you do. | ||
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iRaYP
Scotland66 Posts
On July 15 2011 08:00 Diabolegal wrote: CombatEX and RatzDeezer made it to high Grandmasters b/c of the cannon rush and proxy warpgate and stargate. By your rationale, we have no right to rebut anything they have to say about SC2 b/c they're ranked higher than us even though they're horrible players with cheesy builds. I'm sick of people making the fallacy of authority, but it's easier to attack someone's credibility than to address his argument. It really sad to said someting you have no idea. My macro is prolly better then alot of gm player , so before talking shit do some research. Its fine your prob 12. Totally forgiven you [/QUOTE] You're right. Most people can't build cannons and proxy gateway units while watching their opponent's stream as well as you do.[/QUOTE] Do you think everyone streams their games up to GM yea?? if not then people like deezer are better than 99.8% of The NA server, | ||
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Geiko
France1943 Posts
On July 15 2011 08:00 Diabolegal wrote: You're right. Most people can't build cannons and proxy gateway units while watching their opponent's stream as well as you do. Diabolegal, stop your terrible posting please...(didn't you already get warned ?) He's a thousand times better than you will ever be, and even though you are a bad troll, you're getting on people's nerves I think. | ||
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On July 15 2011 08:14 Geiko wrote: Diabolegal, stop your terrible posting please...(didn't you already get warned ?) He's a thousand times better than you will ever be, and even though you are a bad troll, you're getting on people's nerves I think. You don't even know what trolling is. Pointing out a legitimate weakness in your build is not trolling; it's part of the peer review process. It's sad that you can't handle constructive criticism like a grown-up, but don't call people trolls for trying to help you. Also, you were hostile towards me ("whoever said that you can scout with a probe doesn't know anything") before I was towards you. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:37 tdt wrote: Instead of proving to everyone what a tool you are Diabolegal why not put your money where your mouth is? I assume Geiko's bet still stands? If you really think that nobody can ever scout whether the cheesy player doing this build is moving out with marines and SCVs or floating out an expansion by simply watching the natural/exit, then you are the tool. Also, if I want a game where each player knows what the other is doing, I'll watch the CombatEX-Deezer grudge match. I like giving my money away as much as the OP likes criticism. | ||
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CookieMaker
Canada880 Posts
thank you. | ||
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Boomling
United States8 Posts
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:01 Boomling wrote: Diabolegal your quote says it all your being a troll stop flaming everyone Self-defense. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:43 Diabolegal wrote: If you really think that nobody can ever scout whether the cheesy player doing this build is moving out with marines and SCVs or floating out an expansion by simply watching the natural/exit, then you are the tool. Also, if I want a game where each player knows what the other is doing, I'll watch the CombatEX-Deezer grudge match. I like giving my money away as much as the OP likes criticism. Of course it can be scouted and countered. OP said as much. Sending scouits on 9/10, get lucky on 4 player or easier on 2 player map. Point is even if scouted some players may die. You can also trick someone into a counter not there while doing something els,e cloak banshee/FE etc going for an auto win that way. Point is you can get GM/M with a strat that takes little skill and Geiko has done it and is willing to do it again to prove naysayers such as yourself wrong. What do you offer, theory, BM, and trolling. | ||
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:14 tdt wrote: Of course it can be scouted and countered. OP said as much. Sending scouits on 9/10, get lucky on 4 player or easier on 2 player map. Point is even if scouted some players may die. You can also trick someone into a counter not there while doing something els,e cloak banshee/FE etc going for an auto win that way. Point is you can get GM/M with a strat that takes little skill and Geiko has done it and is willing to do it again to prove naysayers such as yourself wrong. What do you offer, theory, BM, and trolling. Being hostile to people, like the OP, who were hostile to me first is not BM/trolling, it's self-defense. What I offered was constructive criticism, and instead of engaging in intelligent discussion, I got dozens of childish replies full of name-calling and strawman arguments. For the umpteenth time, I'm not denying that this build works (speaking of the strawman...). My point is that you can leave your worker scout in the natural to see whether or not T moves out. If he does, you can bunker up; if he doesn't, you can spot an expansion going down and/or use Orbital energy for a scan to see what T is really doing. I've done it before (so it's not only a theory); it's not that hard to do. | ||
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Squigly
United Kingdom629 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:24 Diabolegal wrote: Being hostile to people, like the OP, who were hostile to me first is not BM/trolling, it's self-defense. What I offered was constructive criticism, and instead of engaging in intelligent discussion, I got dozens of childish replies full of name-calling and strawman arguments. For the umpteenth time, I'm not denying that this build works (speaking of the strawman...). My point is that you can leave your worker scout in the natural to see whether or not T moves out. If he does, you can bunker up; if he doesn't, you can spot an expansion going down and/or use Orbital energy for a scan to see what T is really doing. I've done it before (so it's not only a theory); it's not that hard to do. So you assume they wont kill your scout with like 2 marines showing you nothing? Tbh it sounds like youve played against terrible people, or people doing the build wrong. Also, youve been getting a bad rep, even while you are pointing out legit things. The point about Deezer and CombatX, obvious troll. But that aside, your not being as stupid as most people are saying. Even if you are being rather rude about it ![]() | ||
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xHassassin
United States270 Posts
I mean it seems like you only get it to grab a supply dropdown. Orbital is 150 Supply depo is 100 Unless the lost mining time is >50, it doesn't really make sense. | ||
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Squigly
United Kingdom629 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:59 xHassassin wrote: Is there a reason why you get orbital? I mean it seems like you only get it to grab a supply dropdown. Orbital is 150 Supply depo is 100 Unless the lost mining time is >50, it doesn't really make sense. This had been discussed quite a lot. First off a depot costs about 130 minerals inc mining time. Off the top of my head unless its for reinforcements i cant member, however it had been decided its just better ![]() | ||
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Shewfasa
Canada4 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On July 15 2011 06:45 Deezer wrote: It really sad to said someting you have no idea. My macro is prolly better then alot of gm player , so before talking shit do some research. Its fine your prob 12. Totally forgiven you User was warned for this post why am I not surprised to see you post in this thread Deezer? On topic: This build is too hard to hold as protoss. The protoss can't make a single mistake basically, and if he is unable to kite your army with stalkers (due to alternative attack paths or so) its pretty much 100% GG. | ||
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cuz when you look at it it seems that there is a gap 