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Ivanero
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 00:06:58
June 27 2011 00:06 GMT
#961
You always need to have the money to bet man To put it on the table!
=)
kevmo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States38 Posts
June 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#962
On June 27 2011 08:37 grimAuxiliatrix wrote:
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If I had the money... 100 free euro :D


If you think you would win for certain you don't actually need the money.


Except either way Blizzard would probably try to ban you for account sharing

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Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 00:12:41
June 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#963
On June 27 2011 08:25 Ivanero wrote:
If I had the money... 100 free euro :D


I can reduce the amount a little if you want, and in some way you can pay. For example, if you win I give you 60€ but if I win I get to keep your SC2 account.

You're not taking that much a risk since you are sure I wont succeed right ? Of course we'd have to clear up the rules of the bet etc... BTW anyone who wants to take me on on my offer is welcome. I most probably wont be doing gold and under accounts though, as that would take forever (or then we should up the stakes).

On June 27 2011 09:10 kevmo wrote:
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On June 27 2011 08:37 grimAuxiliatrix wrote:
If I had the money... 100 free euro :D


If you think you would win for certain you don't actually need the money.


Except either way Blizzard would probably try to ban you for account sharing

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236979


I think blizzard doesn't actually mind account sharing when both players have their own accounts. Besides at the end of the bet it won't be account sharing, it will be just me using my second freshly won account.
geiko.813 (EU)
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
June 27 2011 01:02 GMT
#964
On June 27 2011 07:30 Ivanero wrote:
Bump, for those retarded cheesers.

Youmad because you still haven't worked out how to do it?

On June 27 2011 09:10 kevmo wrote:
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On June 27 2011 08:37 grimAuxiliatrix wrote:
If I had the money... 100 free euro :D


If you think you would win for certain you don't actually need the money.


Except either way Blizzard would probably try to ban you for account sharing

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236979

There are hundreds of SC2 players account sharing. The reason they got threatened from blizz is because they made it blatantly publicly obvious and it was being made a huge deal of, so of course blizz had to take action. They're not going to care about some minor random thread.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
closey
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong272 Posts
June 27 2011 03:58 GMT
#965
On June 27 2011 07:45 Geiko wrote:
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On June 27 2011 07:08 Ivanero wrote:
Going to master just doing this maybe it's possible with a new account, but that only demonstrates how bad is the MMR and matchmaking system from blizzard.


Fine, how about another 100€ bet. I bet I can take ANY account to masters using ONLY this.
Who's up for the bet ?


Allow me to change my account user name to "3 rax cheeser" to alert everyone first
Rock, Paper, Scissors
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 09:25:55
June 27 2011 07:55 GMT
#966
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 27 2011 09:03 GMT
#967
just faced with this build (diamond) and was alrdy suspicius when he walled of the bottom of his ramp, thx for posting it

i agree it's really hard for protoss but not impossible
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 09:25:26
June 27 2011 09:24 GMT
#968
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onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
June 27 2011 09:34 GMT
#969
I haven't been playing much lately but this build has been ruining my day. I had one guy not mine for 45 seconds before going into this build and I still managed to lose to what appeared to be an a move. Another guy walled his bottom, cleared out the drone and went one rax cc while I was spining up my main and delaying my expansion for the loss.

I'm going to search around this thread for the "proper" defense against this as zerg, but I'm going to be honest, I don't think there is a proper defense. If the defense is get a super early gas, sac half my economy for a baneling nest and enough gas to morph banelings every time I see someone wall at the bottom of his ramp, that's not good enough.

I'm angry that blizzard put in both mules and supply drop so that this build can exist. It is no wonder korean maps all have supply depots underneath ramps.
rmAmnesiac
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom185 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 09:45:52
June 27 2011 09:45 GMT
#970
On June 27 2011 18:24 Sated wrote:
I know that it isn't impossible, but it's one of those strategies where you feel kinda helpless afterwards. There's nothing to learn, just a crushing defeat. It takes 100x more effort to defend this than to execute it. It's like the raven/banshee/marine all-in... except worse

Sometimes I wish protoss and zerg had such awesome all-ins... but then the game would be worse


they do and they too are a hundred times harder to defend than they are to execute, like with most cheese. so seriously stop trying to boost your own ego. it's kind of pathetic.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 10:43:51
June 27 2011 10:32 GMT
#971
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rmAmnesiac
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom185 Posts
June 27 2011 11:37 GMT
#972
On June 27 2011 19:32 Sated wrote:
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On June 27 2011 18:45 rmAmnesiac wrote:
On June 27 2011 18:24 Sated wrote:
I know that it isn't impossible, but it's one of those strategies where you feel kinda helpless afterwards. There's nothing to learn, just a crushing defeat. It takes 100x more effort to defend this than to execute it. It's like the raven/banshee/marine all-in... except worse

Sometimes I wish protoss and zerg had such awesome all-ins... but then the game would be worse


they do and they too are a hundred times harder to defend than they are to execute, like with most cheese. so seriously stop trying to boost your own ego. it's kind of pathetic.

Why would I need an ego boost? I'm in gold league, I am well aware that I suck at this game and that losing to this build is my own fault. Didn't you see what I wrote?

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On June 27 2011 Sated wrote:
It's so silly how I can scout every, little bit of this build and still get absolutely destroyed by it. Silly on my part, that is.

Don't take an off-hand comment so seriously, it's kinda pathetic


oh wow, you're telling me to read? ok. here you go then, this is what i read: "There's nothing to learn, just a crushing defeat. It takes 100x more effort to defend this than to execute it. It's like the raven/banshee/marine all-in... except worse

Sometimes I wish protoss and zerg had such awesome all-ins... but then the game would be worse"

and that is what i was responding to.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 27 2011 11:46 GMT
#973
On June 27 2011 18:45 rmAmnesiac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 18:24 Sated wrote:
I know that it isn't impossible, but it's one of those strategies where you feel kinda helpless afterwards. There's nothing to learn, just a crushing defeat. It takes 100x more effort to defend this than to execute it. It's like the raven/banshee/marine all-in... except worse

Sometimes I wish protoss and zerg had such awesome all-ins... but then the game would be worse


they do and they too are a hundred times harder to defend than they are to execute, like with most cheese. so seriously stop trying to boost your own ego. it's kind of pathetic.

Not really. A 6 pool might be 100 times harder to defend than to pull off, but a 6pool is ridiculously easy to defend while a rax push like the one in this thread is almost impossible to hold unless you scout it really early and go all-in defence. Zerg has no other all-in which is comparable.
rmAmnesiac
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom185 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 11:51:54
June 27 2011 11:51 GMT
#974
in your opinion as a zerg player with what i assume to be no knowledge of any race other race but your own. what a pointless argument, but if you want to adopt this attitude to make you feel better about yourself than go ahead.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 27 2011 12:00 GMT
#975
encountered this a few times on the ladder, and ive started to make a semi-wall in TvT just so i can make a tight wall-in if i scout this coming. The times ive not scouted it i think it has gone about 50/50, it all comes down to the micro.

Ive tried it myself a couple of times and i think ive won about 50% of the games as well so not that big of a success for me (zerg seems to have the easiest time to hold this off)
Nyast
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium554 Posts
June 27 2011 12:58 GMT
#976
As a Protoss, two Terrans did it to me yesterday. I'd like to thank Geiko for publishing this cheese, now all Terrans try to use it, and since it's easy to counter when you scout it ( the lack of gas really gives it away ) and know what to do, I'm getting a lot of freewins.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 13:24:31
June 27 2011 13:15 GMT
#977
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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
June 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#978
You guys need to stop being so bad at this game and stop senselessly bumping this thread.
koveras
Profile Joined January 2011
163 Posts
June 27 2011 14:25 GMT
#979
I dont want to attack the TC because im glad he posted this build but to be honest I think this is a really bad build and works only when you dont know its coming. After its scouted you simply lost the game against competent players. Kinda like the same as the 3RR that whas popular once but has now faded away in obscurity.
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Strykerz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States85 Posts
June 27 2011 14:34 GMT
#980
IMO vs a terran knowing it's coming, you lose. Vs a zerg knowing it's coming, you lose. Vs a protoss knowing it's coming, you still have a decent chance at winning.

Terran > Bunker
Zerg > spines/ling concave
Protoss > Who has better micro

Seems like a viable strat to try to up your ladder positioning, but who cares what your rank is if you don't understand the game outside of your one all-in.

Still worth using if you're frusterated at losing a bunch of 40 min macro games.
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