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On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ?  Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working.
I do it right so STFU troll.
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On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll.
Do I really need to quote you to prove my point.
On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol.
Please, if you knew how to do any build correctly you wouldn't be in plat.
Let's keep bumping this so even the gold players you run into will know how to stop this.
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On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll.
Personal favourite: "8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it"
You walled off wrong. You herped so hard that you derped. Show us one single replay of you trying this and I bet we'll be able to spot five things you're doing wrong with it. I was testing this build and had around 80% win vs plats and 70% vs diamonds. Complain about it all you want, but you're messing up the most retard friendly build ever made.
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On June 27 2011 01:26 tuestresfat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll. Do I really need to quote you to prove my point. Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. Please, if you knew how to do any build correctly you wouldn't be in plat. Let's keep bumping this so even the gold players you run into will know how to stop this.
I'm not plat. Season 1: 2900+ diamond. I just play vs diamonds and win almost all, but Bnet matchmaking system is so broken.
On June 27 2011 01:29 Teliko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll. Personal favourite: "8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it" You walled off wrong. You herped so hard that you derped. Show us one single replay of you trying this and I bet we'll be able to spot five things you're doing wrong with it. I was testing this build and had around 80% win vs plats and 70% vs diamonds. Complain about it all you want, but you're messing up the most retard friendly build ever made.
You know what? You can always find the 5th leg to a cat, you can always assume that this thing or that one is bad done and should be done other way. But I follow the exactly steps that the OP explained on his 1st post and there is no way this could work more than a 50%, at least if you don't have so big luck.
As I said, I didn't even know this build and stopped it like 90% of times when other noob-cheesers did it to me. You have to be really stupid to lose to this more than 2 times.
And yeah, maybe it worked to you at 70-80% win ratio before. Just try it now and see how you lose at 70-80% ratio.
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On June 27 2011 01:47 Ivanero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:26 tuestresfat wrote:On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll. Do I really need to quote you to prove my point. On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. Please, if you knew how to do any build correctly you wouldn't be in plat. Let's keep bumping this so even the gold players you run into will know how to stop this. I'm not plat. Season 1: 2900+ diamond. I just play vs diamonds and win almost all, but Bnet matchmaking system is so broken.
My apologies. I foolishly (and clearly incorrectly) assumed you were plat when I read:
On June 27 2011 01:47 Ivanero wrote:
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya.
My mistake. God damn Blizzard and their broken ranking system.
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On June 27 2011 01:47 Ivanero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:26 tuestresfat wrote:On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll. Do I really need to quote you to prove my point. On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. Please, if you knew how to do any build correctly you wouldn't be in plat. Let's keep bumping this so even the gold players you run into will know how to stop this. I'm not plat. Season 1: 2900+ diamond. I just play vs diamonds and win almost all, but Bnet matchmaking system is so broken. Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:29 Teliko wrote:On June 27 2011 01:04 Ivanero wrote:On June 27 2011 01:01 tuestresfat wrote:On June 26 2011 23:48 Ivanero wrote:On June 26 2011 23:25 Geiko wrote:On June 26 2011 23:16 Ivanero wrote:
Well I feel trolled.
I'm in top3 platinum for 3 weeks. My real league is diamond but I got to gold playing random on S2, I'm fucking tired of winning diamonds and top platinum and not being promoted for weeks, then I tried this to get a faster MMR recovery, and you know what...? Almost all platinum know this build so you can't get it to work NEVER!!! Free loses everywhere.
Cya. Are you a betting man ? If you lend me your account logs, I'll play 20 games doing only this build. If I win 14 or more of these games, you owe me 100€, otherwise I owe you 100€. Do we have a deal ? Doing just what you explained at ur first thread? Just that? I'd like to do if I just had the money, but looking at your confidence I can't understand how can u get this to work when almost everybody on Bnet know about this build. Terran just wall of/bunker (lots of them just wall off), protoss can rush their units with chrono and stopping probes production, and zerg just make around 10 lings and it's over :S Edit: They key point is that when they see you just wall bottom ramp they know you are about to all in Edit2: Ok gettint some wins now, maybe I had to refine the build, I'll play some more games and let's see what happens lol. I'm gonna explain losses: 1. P: He just saw the bottom wall and made 3 cannons in his ramp. 2. T: So easy to stop with terran with just wall and 1-1-1 with hellion lol. 3. T: He just did a 3 rax normal build and stopped easy pulling al scvs + marines. 4. T: He was 1rax-FE I think, he bunkered, he didnt need even repairing while bunkered marines were killing my marines, then a hellion appeared and another lose. 5. Z: So easy to stop with zerg. You just delay with lings+queen+drones and they have even enough time to build a spine and build lots of zerglings to stop you. 6. T: Wall + repairing bunker + hellion *Note: It's not I just lose vs terrans, I'm losing 75% of games doing this, but I'm just playing vs terrans. *Note2: I feel this BO is stupid really, I lost to it like 2 times some time ago and I never lost to it anymore, and I didn't even know the build. 7. P: Metalopolis crossed positions, no way it could work. FF half of my scvs and killed, then he warped in 3 stalkers more, GG again an 6 loss in a row. Now I feel even more trolled. 8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it, see my all in, then rush 2 zealots and stop it easy pulling probes + 2 stalkers. (And I moved on min 4:00 lol) Gratz on failing to execute one of the easiest cheeses in this game. And gratz on bumping this thread so more people know about this, decreasing the possibility of this working. I do it right so STFU troll. Personal favourite: "8. P: Xel Naga, I did right the wall, that showed the grid, but this stupid and bad done game let the probe pass through it" You walled off wrong. You herped so hard that you derped. Show us one single replay of you trying this and I bet we'll be able to spot five things you're doing wrong with it. I was testing this build and had around 80% win vs plats and 70% vs diamonds. Complain about it all you want, but you're messing up the most retard friendly build ever made. You know what? You can always find the 5th leg to a cat, you can always assume that this thing or that one is bad done and should be done other way. But I follow the exactly steps that the OP explained on his 1st post and there is no way this could work more than a 50%, at least if you don't have so big luck. As I said, I didn't even know this build and stopped it like 90% of times when other noob-cheesers did it to me. You have to be really stupid to lose to this more than 2 times. And yeah, maybe it worked to you at 70-80% win ratio before. Just try it now and see how you lose at 70-80% ratio.
Trying it now will make no difference because no one new in the last week has seen this thread until you decided to come along and bump it to let us know you can't do it. All players in these games are mid-high diamond.
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On June 27 2011 01:29 Teliko wrote:
you're messing up the most retard friendly build ever made.
This literally made me lough out loud.
It's funny 'cause it's true :D
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On June 27 2011 03:42 Geiko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 01:29 Teliko wrote:
you're messing up the most retard friendly build ever made. This literally made me lough out loud. It's funny 'cause it's true :D
It's actually patently false. In the beginning, sure, perhaps this build caught a few retards off guard, and perhaps a few games were won by a few people. Sure.
However, now that it's out, it's a pretty terrible build (assuming diamond+). To humor the topic, I've executed the build perfectly without missing any mechanical aspects of it (indeed, an easy feat) and lost every single time.
Perhaps it's only viable in lower leagues now? I'd like to see you go 14-6 (or whatever arbitrary ratio suits you) at least at the high diamond level.
Note: I also practiced against defending this build out of a 14 hatch - even that is relatively easy if you just assume it's coming with the lower-wall scout.
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funny thing is ive realized now that NOT walling the bottom of your ramp makes this stronger
10depot 11rax to get out a fast marine (but the rax still looks like a 12rax)
build SCV's up to 13
then you keep building scv's after 13 and CANCEL THE SCV before its finished and keep remaking it. this makes it so you never really make another scv, but the command center is looking like its in production
most protosses below diamond cannot tell a scv cutting difference as long as you constantly produce 14th scv but never finish it, because 13 scv's still looks like alot and no gas could easily mean gasless expand, and the 11rax marine comes out fast enough to deny future scouting
build 13rax which can still look normal to the toss because 2rax late-gas expand is common too. then your marine kills scouting probe right around this time
build third rax at 13 scv's, now the protoss is truly screwed because marines above your ramp prevent future scouting and he has no idea you are doing this 3rax cheese
also another benefit of doing this is the extra SCV gives you enough income so you get out a depot (instead of the calldown) letting you drop your first mule instead of calldown supply. this gives you a greater economy during the attack letting for more backup marines.
doing that should make the attack hit maybe 10 seconds later and be just as strong, but the enemy has no way of really scouting it
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^^^ That seems to rely on lower leagues though. If you click on the rax and look at the completion % and the timer you can tell whether or not it was 11 or 12 if you know the correct timing (which you can figure out by replays or in your own practice game). Same goes for SCV count/production.
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On June 27 2011 04:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 03:42 Geiko wrote:On June 27 2011 01:29 Teliko wrote:
you're messing up the most retard friendly build ever made. This literally made me lough out loud. It's funny 'cause it's true :D It's actually patently false. In the beginning, sure, perhaps this build caught a few retards off guard, and perhaps a few games were won by a few people. Sure. However, now that it's out, it's a pretty terrible build (assuming diamond+). To humor the topic, I've executed the build perfectly without missing any mechanical aspects of it (indeed, an easy feat) and lost every single time. Perhaps it's only viable in lower leagues now? I'd like to see you go 14-6 (or whatever arbitrary ratio suits you) at least at the high diamond level. Note: I also practiced against defending this build out of a 14 hatch - even that is relatively easy if you just assume it's coming with the lower-wall scout.
A couple of weeks ago (way after the OP was made), I laddered a friend acount into master league with 20-2 or something like that to see if it was still working. Then i played 20 or so more games and averaged out at 50% playing low-mid master people (so like 30-12 final)
I can take that 100€ bet with anyone who still doesn't believe me. W/L > 50% for diamond acounts and W/L>70% for plat and lower out of 20 games.
But then again, I have >50% in mid/high masters with cannon rushes, proxy gates and elaborated probe rushes so I think most of a cheese's success rate depends on execution more than on the strategy itself.
Edit : Come on guys, just a little more interest in this thread and we are at 200'000 views :p
Edit2 : This is actually quite depressing in fact  There are more people who have read my cheese thread than there are people who have read the strategy forum guidelines ...
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eh Geiko it's a cool/fun build when it works but don't rub your ego too much... kinda lame to say things like "let's get lots of views" etc etc. Just be happy with yourself but don't bask in the attention too much, makes ya look like a tool.
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I'm sorry, I just love all the attention I'm getting That's why I keep on bumping this thread every week or so when people have forgotten about it. Helps me know I'm still alive, knowwhatImean ?
Seriously though, take this to PM if you want to talk about it.
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Going to master just doing this maybe it's possible with a new account, but that only demonstrates how bad is the MMR and matchmaking system from blizzard.
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On June 27 2011 06:29 Geiko wrote:I'm sorry, I just love all the attention I'm getting That's why I keep on bumping this thread every week or so when people have forgotten about it. Helps me know I'm still alive, knowwhatImean ? Seriously though, take this to PM if you want to talk about it.
Well it would be nice if you stopped bumping it so I can use the strat to get 10 terran wins for the portrait. 
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Bump, for those retarded cheesers.
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On June 27 2011 07:08 Ivanero wrote:
Going to master just doing this maybe it's possible with a new account, but that only demonstrates how bad is the MMR and matchmaking system from blizzard.
Fine, how about another 100€ bet. I bet I can take ANY account to masters using ONLY this.
Who's up for the bet ?
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If I had the money... 100 free euro :D
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If I had the money... 100 free euro :D
If you think you would win for certain you don't actually need the money.
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EPT
