EPTNo replay? You cover two completely different things, and then put ZERO thought forward. I won't mouth feed a response.
[Q] PvZ dealing with mass banes/lings - Page 2
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ShamTao
United States419 Posts
No replay? You cover two completely different things, and then put ZERO thought forward. I won't mouth feed a response. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On April 13 2011 01:09 CASLsoju wrote: Scenario: It's 20 minutes into the game, I'm on 3 base, we're macroing, it's fine. I know he has tons of lings and banes. All the Z does is throw banes at me and lings and I'm forced to waste forcefields constantly since once you're more than 10 minutes into the game it's really easy to recreate lings and banes. It really sucks because I can't use air either to counter it since there are so many little ground units. I hate building tier 3 and getting raped by tier 1. I'm ex 3500 masters so I'm not too terrible, but still. And Z wonders why P 4gates. Hate dealing with this shit. Also, FUCK INFESTORS. How do you counter Z if they have 8/9 infestors? I'm honestly thinking of switching to Z because this is so ridiculously easy. Fungal -> banes, or fungle * 1000 + infested terrans. Or, burrow infestors and infested terrans in all your bases. So, how do you high level P's handle this. I'm not looking for "harass him to keep him on his feet so he can't attack and forced to tech". I'm looking for help so when the direct encounter happens. I'm pondering just honestly going mass zealots and letting them die, not even teching. Like others have said a replay is needed. FF of course are good for saving your base/cannons. You should consider other tech options to force him to spend his gas and money elsewhere. I like to eventually get a stargate and get phoenix ,great map control and good harass before infestors, not to mention he will have to morph the banes by your base (or walk them across with phoenix out lolz) and they will be easily picked off with mass phoenix if you want. Another option is getting a robo and some immortals, banes are freakin terrible vs immortals, so once you have a few with your mass gateway force you can just push across the map (try and lead with the immortals and take the banes with them), force a tech switch. | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
This guy was throwing a lot of stuff at me. The trick is to capture a lot within the force fields, so you're not simply just trading force fields for nothing. I also had a good followup. Another game I had with some dude where he went for very heavy ling/baneling into ultralisks. He lost pretty hard as well. Start watching at 24 minutes: http://www.justin.tv/kiwiclonearmy/b/283427723 The idea I had in the replay is to get a really good amount of Sentry. Since I can't really run out into the map without fear of dieing, I had to harass him in some other way. I can go for DT, well microed blink stalker, warp prisms, Stargate tech. All of those could have worked. In the second game I wanted a direct approach. I wanted to just get templar and them storm the shit out of everything. Although, if you have templar you're going to need some beefy immortals so that roaches or ultralisks to rofl all over you. I also incorporated Voidrays late game because Immortal Voidray and Templar is super strong, and when I say super I mean super. This guy was prepared for me to 1a onto his side of the map when I felt comfortable, so I decided to attack him in like 3-4 different places all at once. | ||
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Splendour
Bulgaria129 Posts
Also, I found this style to be quite vulnerable to dt openings as it's very easy to make him waste gas on overseers and do a blinkstalker + archon timing push. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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