I must confess that roughly 70% of all my losses against zerg are due to bad wall offs, and any information I can get about how to do it better is quite valuable to me.

101toss

3232 Posts

March 23 2011 23:38 GMT

#22

On March 24 2011 08:31 Carbonthief wrote:
I must confess that roughly 70% of all my losses against zerg are due to bad wall offs, and any information I can get about how to do it better is quite valuable to me.

To check your wall, attempt to run a probe through. If it can make it through, your wall is not functional, and you need to build something to fill up the hole.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10366 Posts

March 23 2011 23:49 GMT

#23

Yay :D

I wonder why the Ramp is like that though o.o

AbeToss

United States60 Posts

March 24 2011 00:04 GMT

#24

On March 24 2011 07:24 CecilSunkure wrote:
The zealot in those is vulnerable to roaches on low ground! I prefer something like these:
+ Show Spoiler +

Glad to see that you're implementing IMYongHwa's wall-in on the new maps

. Perhaps I'll update my original thread with some examples of the wall-in for the rest of the new maps. If I do would you mind if I stole your examples?

ZeromuS

Canada13407 Posts

March 24 2011 00:32 GMT

#25

Thank you this saves me so much time of going in custom and climb this myself. Caused a loss cuz I walled myself in vs zerg earlier and then couldn't expo right time and keep a wall properly from run bys. I was so surprised when I saw that I walled myself in lol its a dif ramp than normal after all

resilve

United Kingdom678 Posts

March 30 2011 13:24 GMT

#26

I didnt play this map for a while, till it jumped up and slapped me in the face today - when did this change go down? and is it now completely necessary to downvote this map? :|

I feel required to downvote delta, and now this is another required downvote as protoss?

Only leaves me with 1 playstyle/preference veto

(I choose scrap)

Khaladas

United States223 Posts

March 30 2011 15:07 GMT

#27

I like walling in the BOTTOM of the ramp better. You close one of the paths to your natural as well by doing this.

KaoReal

Canada340 Posts

April 06 2011 19:32 GMT

#28

On March 31 2011 00:07 Khaladas wrote:
I like walling in the BOTTOM of the ramp better. You close one of the paths to your natural as well by doing this.

screenshot? i don't understand how to block off the initial ling runby and one natural entrance with a bottom-ramp wall

Vexas

United States98 Posts

May 25 2011 23:13 GMT

#29

Thank you OP for this. I have been dying to Zergs on this map quite a lot due to inappropriate walling. For those in the same predicament as me and that are curious: This wall off does indeed still work after patch 1.3.3 and the pylon radius change.

Thanks again! Great small guide to the proper wall offs on every position on this map :3

Gl and Hf!

chaopow

United States556 Posts

May 25 2011 23:17 GMT

#30

I do a funky wall in thats pushed back a little. Not sure if its totally zergling tight, maybe 2 lings can hit it but cant squeeze through in the wall in I do. Also, are you sure only 1 ling at a time can attack the zealot in this one? I feel 2 or 3 lings can hit the zealot at the same time, making a speedling all in or quick pool very effective.

StateSC2

Korea (South)621 Posts

May 25 2011 23:28 GMT

#31

Umm.. 99% positive most of those are incomplete wall-offs. Look how much room there is around the zealots! Can't zerglings fit through there?

EDIT: Oh, nevermind. Didn't notice how old the thread was.. Pretty sure people have figured this out by now. ^_^

dreamsmasher

816 Posts

May 25 2011 23:35 GMT

#32

ah the things i could bitch about about this map. i just downvote it. i also hate the 'split' leading to your natural expo.

NoisyNinja

United States991 Posts

May 26 2011 01:03 GMT

#33

Good, I couldn't figure out how to wall in on this map worth shit. And I love this map (I'm crazy, I know).

NoisyNinja

United States991 Posts

May 26 2011 01:06 GMT

#34

On May 26 2011 08:35 dreamsmasher wrote:
ah the things i could bitch about about this map. i just downvote it. i also hate the 'split' leading to your natural expo.

Forge + pylon = Walled off one of the splits. Preferably the one closer to your ramp to make runbys harder.

Problem Solved.

epikAnglory

United States1120 Posts

May 26 2011 06:06 GMT

#35

On March 24 2011 06:47 DrGreen wrote:

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a) just set probe on hold position while repeling lings with 1st zealot.
I dont understand your point b)

Here's how i wall off: http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2716/screenshot2011032322415.jpg
You can do that in every spawn position

Ahhh though that is more vulnerable to Baneling busts, 6 pools should instantly fail with that 2-building wall in. Good find for both the OP and yourself.