EPTOr is there anyway to make use of the fast DPS of an unsieged tank?
Is there any reason to not get the siege upgrade, for Siege Tanks?
[Q] Any use to unsieged Siege Tanks?
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Kakisho
United States240 Posts
Or is there anyway to make use of the fast DPS of an unsieged tank? Is there any reason to not get the siege upgrade, for Siege Tanks? | ||
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VeryAverage
United States424 Posts
However, using tanks unsieged can be good if you have flat out superior numbers. You see it a lot when some guy only has one or two sieged tanks + marines versus about 7-8 unsieged + marines, you just bust the lower number of tanks. Otherwise, it's not going to work that well. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Keep them unsieged if you don't intend to make a strong full push, but to just do a bad run-by or poke. | ||
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Coriolis
United States1152 Posts
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
- If your opponent roach drops on you, you're better off unsieging, killing roaches as they drop and letting their high dps go to town instead of splashing all over your own units. - Very strong against stalkers - Often times better than sieged tanks for a-moving an opponent's tank line, as the siege time takes too long and unsieged tanks are very good against sieged tanks | ||
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Spiders
United States86 Posts
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nitdkim
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julius33
Estonia79 Posts
 So in Tank VS Tank situation, an unsieged tank will win. | ||
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QQmonster
Canada240 Posts
Dont get the upgrade if you don't intend on making a lot of tanks past the first couple youre using for your rush. In high numbers getting the upgrade is really beneficial, otherwise marauders are more cost efficient. | ||
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Blade2322
Japan99 Posts
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
A siege tank, unsieged, will deal higher DPS against an armored target than an tank in siege mode. So, if a tank won't be dealing splash damage, it will deal more damage unsieged. Also, against ultralisks, it's better to be unsieged, and against buildings, unsieged. (The large ones) | ||
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QQmonster
Canada240 Posts
On March 06 2011 06:28 Selkie wrote: To clarify what's being said above: A siege tank, unsieged, will deal higher DPS against an armored target than an tank in siege mode. So, if a tank won't be dealing splash damage, it will deal more damage unsieged. Also, against ultralisks, it's better to be unsieged, and against buildings, unsieged. (The large ones) against ultralisks i find the best method is to let the tanks shoot once from max range, then unsiege and start shoot-n-scooting. | ||
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n3mo
United States298 Posts
On March 06 2011 06:28 Selkie wrote: To clarify what's being said above: A siege tank, unsieged, will deal higher DPS against an armored target than an tank in siege mode. So, if a tank won't be dealing splash damage, it will deal more damage unsieged. Also, against ultralisks, it's better to be unsieged, and against buildings, unsieged. (The large ones) this basically sums it up. although for static defense (cannons, bunkers, spines, PFs), the range is helpful - although it'll take longer to kill the building, you can hit it without taking damage in return. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On March 06 2011 06:33 n3mo wrote: this basically sums it up. although for static defense (cannons, bunkers, spines, PFs), the range is helpful - although it'll take longer to kill the building, you can hit it without taking damage in return. Siege Tank has a range of 7, unupgraded PF's have only 6 range. | ||
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Jayrod
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
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djdoodoo
United Kingdom192 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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farseerdk
Canada504 Posts
But yeah there isn't any SC2 equivalent of the Fake Double that I've seen... | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
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Genovi
Sweden388 Posts
On March 06 2011 06:21 iEchoic wrote: A few uses: - If your opponent roach drops on you, you're better off unsieging, killing roaches as they drop and letting their high dps go to town instead of splashing all over your own units. - Very strong against stalkers - Often times better than sieged tanks for a-moving an opponent's tank line, as the siege time takes too long and unsieged tanks are very good against sieged tanks I think iEchoic has the best explanation. Specifically i remember doing a push with marines raven + tank without siegemode vs toss back in beta when i played terran. It was quite strong and i honestly dont know why no one is using it. But i guess it was early beta and every1 was just doing 1base pushes. IDK but they are suprisingly strong against stalkers and roaches. | ||
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Roblin
Sweden948 Posts
as for if there is a point in not getting siege tech, there is just about as much of a point in not getting it as there is in not getting zergling speed, collossi range, hydra range, ultra armor and to a lesser extent roach speed. i.e. those upgrades are (in the current metagame) practically essential to get, even if you only get a mere handful of the associated unit, and those few times that you don't get it, you better have damn good reason. (example: you don't get zergling speed when 6-pooling, even if your main army is composed of zerglings: the damn good reason: you cant afford it) | ||
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farseerdk
Canada504 Posts
masters player as random, btw. | ||
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underdawg
United States399 Posts
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SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
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Dominating
United States85 Posts
1. Broodlords 2. Units being dropped on top of my army. Now, if the question was why you wouldn't even research siege mode? I have no idea, it makes tanks so much more threatening 99% of the time. Just be wary of the splash damage. | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
Lots of 1 base pushes vs P involved 4-5 tanks unsieged with raven + banshee and marines. Very polt timing push like. I use a TvT build sometimes, or used to before hellion gayness, where I push with 15 marines 3 unsiege tanks and 1 medic to quick elevator and work on their base. In short -- they aren't at ALL useless without siege | ||
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Flyingpants
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On March 06 2011 15:18 Flyingpants wrote: Unsieged tanks with micro beat sieged tanks any day. Very true. To break siege lines you pre spread into a nice big concave. stim 3-5 marines seperate and run them in, then send the rest in and manually pick off tanks with your tanks and stim hop the marines (at least what I do) Of course theres a limit depending on the tank count, but unsieged tanks can be vicious because of the high DPS and mobility. | ||
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QQmonster
Canada240 Posts
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Zerkaszhan
Canada120 Posts
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