EPTnor is it cheese,,,,, i think cheese is something 8 mins and less,, this puppy comes at u after 11 mins..... gives u a lot of time to prepare.
[D] TvP Thor/Banshee/Raven/Marine push - Page 5
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy |
|
kwan_1984
Canada58 Posts
nor is it cheese,,,,, i think cheese is something 8 mins and less,, this puppy comes at u after 11 mins..... gives u a lot of time to prepare. | ||
|
kwan_1984
Canada58 Posts
i have had some early agression from close spawning points,,, really mess up my groove,, but i still come out on top,,,,, there was one time when i was just starting to play with this build,,,, budsy made a 3-gate robo,,, FE..... kept pressure with stalkers,,,,, kept attacking my wall off,,,,, from the the very first stalker he made,,,, threw me right off,,,,, he got his second,,, got greedy got a third,,,,, byt the time i could catch up on the build,,, i knocked off 2 of his bases,,, he did some nice damage to me..... sneaky bastard made a 3rd,,, with 3 stargates,,, pumped out some voids,,,,, i had to GG..... that loss willl always be stuck on my brain,,,, to always always always scout the whole map,,,, and to make bunkers for christ sakes... i was such a cheap bastard then,,,, i relied on pulling scvs to repair my walll,,, instead of just making 1-2 bunks,,,,, until my army was stronger.... | ||
|
visselli
Canada76 Posts
| ||
|
kwan_1984
Canada58 Posts
came up JUST SHORT,,,, because of me being over excited and shitty macro,,,, it was my game to win,,,,, u know how it is,,, first game of the day,,,, u just woke up,,,, u attack,,,, he pulls off all his drones to take out your last Thor,,,, u look back at your base,, with your eyes half glued shut because u just woke up,,,, sitting in your base, is about 15 marines, 1 banshee and 2 thors.... yeahhhh thats what happend to me this morning,,,,, fuckkkk,,,, i felt like rapeing little boys after seeing that...... and noticing that I had rallyed all my shit to my orginal thor,, he died,,, and forgetting to re-rally my stuff........ it was my game to win...... but id like to see how a protoss "easily" beats this,,,, u must be butchering this build badly. | ||
|
hi im new
Germany150 Posts
| ||
|
Squigly
United Kingdom629 Posts
| ||
|
`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
| ||
|
kwan_1984
Canada58 Posts
| ||
|
kwan_1984
Canada58 Posts
i find collosis falll hard with this build,,, with some decent macro, i always focus the collosi.... with 4 banshee and 3 thor,,, she drops like a sack of patatoes in like point five four seconds. this is my personal experience,,, and like the OP i have used this prolly close to 100 times now. so I have seen just about every single variation. How many v-rays, collsi, and gateway units do you plan on even having at 11 mins anyhow? both of those are pretty damn pricey units,,,, and u wont really know what to build until u march that observer over to my base,,,, by the time he rolls over tehre,, i have a raven sitting there waiting for u. by then it still leaves u pretty clueless.... U will prolly think mech play. or some sort? at that time when most guys send there obs over,,, alll we have really is our rines, and raven,,,, and thor on its way out,, or 1 poppin out..... so u may see that,,, or if u really wanna risk a v-ray death,,, just to scout me. that usually works in my favour. when that happens,,, at most, u usally get one marine and a scv kill. if that. | ||
|
Jumbled
1543 Posts
On March 21 2011 01:29 `Zapdos wrote: As toss all you have to do is go 3gate robo stargate just like your preparing against anyother banshee all in, only you get voidrays instead of pheonix. Voidrays gateway units and 1 collosus destroys this build completely. That's just not going to work. You can't even sustain 2 gates plus a robo and stargate off one base, and that's assuming you don't build a robo bay. If you tried to go both colossus and voids you'd simply have no units when this push came, and there's no chance you would stop it. | ||
|
OlorinPA
28 Posts
| ||
|
Squigly
United Kingdom629 Posts
Also if you scout them 1 basing, you can probably just expand because its not like they can really attack into you. A couple thors on cliffs can SC any colossi walking past. Get a pdd or 2 down so the thors dont get wrecked and your golden | ||
|
Abandon
United States8 Posts
On March 21 2011 01:29 `Zapdos wrote: As toss all you have to do is go 3gate robo stargate just like your preparing against anyother banshee all in, only you get voidrays instead of pheonix. Voidrays gateway units and 1 collosus destroys this build completely. LOL yeah, all you have to do as Protoss to defend is 1base colossus+void. No big deal or anything. | ||
|
PowerKock
46 Posts
when do u ever asee a toss go collosi/void? its more rare than seeing a unicorn. | ||
|
Pookie Monster
United States303 Posts
On March 21 2011 01:29 `Zapdos wrote: As toss all you have to do is go 3gate robo stargate just like your preparing against anyother banshee all in, only you get voidrays instead of pheonix. Voidrays gateway units and 1 collosus destroys this build completely. this guy is right, this push is too late against a really good toss, ive been winning with a variation that hits much sooner its basically two thors a raven two banshees and about 12 marines and a handful of scvs its very effective against a wide vareity of openings from toss | ||
|
iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On March 26 2011 05:38 Pookie Monster wrote: this guy is right, this push is too late against a really good toss, ive been winning with a variation that hits much sooner its basically two thors a raven two banshees and about 12 marines and a handful of scvs its very effective against a wide vareity of openings from toss Well don't just leave it at that dude. As a horrible TvP player I gotta know. I hit at about 12-13 with 3-4 thors with strike, 2-4 banshees, raven, and 15-20 marines and 10 scvs. Would love to hit earlier lol | ||
|
RaE21
United States260 Posts
| ||
|
PowerKock
46 Posts
since we know that 2 thor pushes hard counter 4 gate rushes.... or at least in my experience anyways. after u hold off the 4 gate bullshit,,, go on with your macro.... Command and conquer.... | ||
|
Jumbled
1543 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:22 OlorinPA wrote: Finally had a friend of mine beat it. We practiced it several times in a row and he finally held it with a 1 base colossus build. He had three colossi out by the time the push hit. That sounds about right. One-base colossus is still a very good response against a delayed 1-base all-in. | ||
|
Cyaxis
7 Posts
Has anyone tried this successfully at a diamond+ level vs Zerg? I think it could be effective. | ||
| ||
