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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 09 2011 19:15 eth3n wrote: drones Drones what? Do you know how many drones it takes to kill 1 building cannon, let alone 2? 4 each. That means you are not mining So unless you can stop the cannons from being placed, you will lose that hatch unless your pool timing is just right. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On February 09 2011 15:06 Azide wrote: i'm pretty sure he just masses probes while scouting and if he sees a pool he gets a gate and if he sees an early hatch he gets a forge.... Yeah, this is what he does 90% of pvz... People find it weird since he goes 15 gate/15 forge usually since he's waiting on intel. I can't watch video right now but I guarantee that's what he does. Vs the 14/15 hatch he gets the forge, masses cannons, and right as they're about to die he cancels and keeps making more. Until the Zerg cancels hatchery, or they will try to fight and Zerg lose almost always. | ||
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10383 Posts
@Yoshi No. You can cancel the cannons and be only about 150 minerals behind, and simply set up a fast expansion of your own with cannons. Again, the main strength of this build is its flexibility. Also, 2 cannons aren't easy to take out, especially if they are by the pylon so neither they nor the pylon can be surrounded. Ok thanks for responding  | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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palanq
United States761 Posts
On February 09 2011 16:47 FloWoIF wrote: This build looks interesting from a zergs pov but what if the serf goes guitars a reach build because it means you have expanded due to scouting the spawning pool. if the serf goes guitars, then make sure he learns your favorite songs | ||
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Mindflow
Korea (South)320 Posts
Well everyone is saying thats huks pvz is unstoppable and top zergs r qqing about zvp atm, JUST SAYIN, i play bw so it doesnt even matter User was warned for this post | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
On February 10 2011 12:23 lyAsakura wrote: It's just a cannon rush, it is not? Not at all. This strategy is to put cannons behind their expansion to delay it significantly and let you survive past the mid-game weakness of protoss. It is MUCH less all in, you only invest in a few or even just one cannon, and transitions out into almost any other kind of build, pretty fast expands, timing pushes, 2 base collosi, and many other strategies. | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
On February 10 2011 12:09 palanq wrote: if the serf goes guitars, then make sure he learns your favorite songs In that situation, as the zerg, I like to go Free Bird on his ass, or maybe a little Thunderstruck with Ultras if I'm feeling frisky. | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
On February 10 2011 12:30 Eschaton wrote: In that situation, as the zerg, I like to go Free Bird on his ass, or maybe a little Thunderstruck with Ultras if I'm feeling frisky. To be honest... I'm more in favor of going for the famous hack a Dominion nuke facility somewhere on the planet using the technology I should be able to use to kill everything instantly, and launch a nuke at the guitar. The reach build will have a problem, without the guitar you know? | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
On February 10 2011 12:29 ImmortalTofu wrote: Not at all. This strategy is to put cannons behind their expansion to delay it significantly and let you survive past the mid-game weakness of protoss. It is MUCH less all in, you only invest in a few or even just one cannon, and transitions out into almost any other kind of build, pretty fast expands, timing pushes, 2 base collosi, and many other strategies. It is still a cannon rush, regardless of what comes afterwards, and a well made cannon rush is never all in. | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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