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cclim387
Profile Joined October 2011
United States20 Posts
March 20 2013 18:11 GMT
#15081
not really a simple question about strategy, but didnt want to start a new thread in general section. anyone have the new protoss skins in game yet??! can't find any in game screenshots or videos. i must see!! only level 14ish now... level 20 and 30 seem so far away haha
too close for missiles, im switching to guns.
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
March 20 2013 19:03 GMT
#15082
On March 21 2013 03:00 Supah wrote:
It seems like Neo Planet S on the ladder has different spawn mining distance. Someone try to test this as well? Bottom left seems like it just flat out mines more slowly than upper right.


Quote for next page
haaz
Profile Joined May 2010
157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 20:30:28
March 20 2013 20:30 GMT
#15083
Which build is more economic? which is more safe? and which allows faster teching?
1) reactor expand
2) 2rax expand
?
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kiad
Profile Joined April 2012
14 Posts
March 20 2013 22:53 GMT
#15084
Hey guys, hope this hasnt been posted before but I've been noticing while watching Stephano's stream that he tends to build like 6 or more Evo chambers in the midgame, I assumed they were for recharging the Vipers but some games he doesnt even build Vipers. Am I missing something out here? Why so many Evo's?
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 03:15:59
March 21 2013 03:14 GMT
#15085
Playing HOTS campaign, should I play on brutal or hard?

I mean obviously im good at sc2, masters, but im afraid brutal will just be like retarded where you win by mostly abusing the game or being forced to do boring things like make only marines. I just want to enjoy the campaign.
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
March 21 2013 03:40 GMT
#15086
On March 21 2013 12:14 Belial88 wrote:
Playing HOTS campaign, should I play on brutal or hard?

I mean obviously im good at sc2, masters, but im afraid brutal will just be like retarded where you win by mostly abusing the game or being forced to do boring things like make only marines. I just want to enjoy the campaign.


Brutal HotS is MUCH easier than brutal WoL. You can get through basically all the missions with Kerrigan's abilities and a hydra/roach ball. Or Kerrigan and mass ling. Kerrigan's abilities are ridiculously strong, and the unit evolution paths are ridiculous as well. I cruised through brutal with maybe two minor exceptions, and I'm not good at all (I haven't played in over a year and was only platinum when I did...). I'm sure a masters player could steamroll every brutal mission with whatever unit composition they wanted. The only reason I can see playing on hard is if you want to go for all the mastery achievements on a single playthrough; there might not be enough time to do some of them on brutal.
ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 08:03:47
March 21 2013 08:02 GMT
#15087
Edit: nvm figured it out.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 10:03:14
March 21 2013 10:02 GMT
#15088
On March 21 2013 12:14 Belial88 wrote:
Playing HOTS campaign, should I play on brutal or hard?

I mean obviously im good at sc2, masters, but im afraid brutal will just be like retarded where you win by mostly abusing the game or being forced to do boring things like make only marines. I just want to enjoy the campaign.


I got through brutal pretty quickly, without looking up help and I'm a part time gold leaguer. There's no abusing bad ai or anything and whilst the obvious roach/hydra/kerrigan is the best composition for essentially anything it's more than viable to mess around with muta, mass ultra, lings etc. I even did a mission using nothing but swarm hosts and kerrigan.

That all said, if you really just wanna do whatever you want, hard wil give you that too - but brutal isn't rediculously challenging.
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AKnopf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany259 Posts
March 21 2013 11:37 GMT
#15089
Do Widow Mines do full damage against Immortals or only 10?
In other words: Is it concidered an attack or an ability?
The world - its a funny place
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
March 21 2013 12:07 GMT
#15090
On March 21 2013 20:37 AKnopf wrote:
Do Widow Mines do full damage against Immortals or only 10?
In other words: Is it concidered an attack or an ability?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Widow_Mine

it's considered an ability, so it does the full damage to immortals
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 21 2013 12:21 GMT
#15091
On March 21 2013 03:11 cclim387 wrote:
not really a simple question about strategy, but didnt want to start a new thread in general section. anyone have the new protoss skins in game yet??! can't find any in game screenshots or videos. i must see!! only level 14ish now... level 20 and 30 seem so far away haha


Most protoss players who stream a lot already have them.

On March 21 2013 12:14 Belial88 wrote:
Playing HOTS campaign, should I play on brutal or hard?

I mean obviously im good at sc2, masters, but im afraid brutal will just be like retarded where you win by mostly abusing the game or being forced to do boring things like make only marines. I just want to enjoy the campaign.



Brutal is actually pretty easy compared to WoL. Go for brutal unless you want a really easy and relaxed playthrough.
uncarlo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States16 Posts
March 21 2013 17:47 GMT
#15092
In liquipedia, what does the +1 at the side of the properties value mean? For example mutalisk (opens spoiler):

+ Show Spoiler +
Attack
Ground Attack: 9(+1.000)
3(+0.333)
1(+0.111)
Ground DPS: 5.9(+0.7)
2(+0.2)
0.7(+0.1)
Air Attack: 9 (+1.000)
3 (+0.333)
1 (+0.111)
Air DPS: 5.9(+0.7)
2(+0.2)
0.7(+0.1)
Range: 3
Cooldown: 1.5246

Defense 120 0 (+1)


Also, there are 3 different values for the Attack and DPS, why is that?
born to fast expand
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 18:00:17
March 21 2013 17:51 GMT
#15093
On March 22 2013 02:47 uncarlo wrote:
In liquipedia, what does the +1 at the side of the properties value mean? For example mutalisk (opens spoiler):

+ Show Spoiler +
Attack
Ground Attack: 9(+1.000)
3(+0.333)
1(+0.111)
Ground DPS: 5.9(+0.7)
2(+0.2)
0.7(+0.1)
Air Attack: 9 (+1.000)
3 (+0.333)
1 (+0.111)
Air DPS: 5.9(+0.7)
2(+0.2)
0.7(+0.1)
Range: 3
Cooldown: 1.5246

Defense 120 0 (+1)


Also, there are 3 different values for the Attack and DPS, why is that?


The mutalisk has three numbers for each because each attack hits up to three times. The numbers in brackets are the increase per upgrade taken for it.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
March 21 2013 19:35 GMT
#15094
Can you leave a message via Battle.net 2.0?
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gabsonuro
Profile Joined July 2012
24 Posts
March 21 2013 20:33 GMT
#15095
who was the sc2 pro gamer that would just marine scv rush every single match?
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
March 21 2013 20:36 GMT
#15096
On March 22 2013 05:33 gabsonuro wrote:
who was the sc2 pro gamer that would just marine scv rush every single match?


(Wiki)BitByBit?
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 21 2013 20:41 GMT
#15097
Has Blizzard fixed the level 70 Kerrigan achievement yet?
I redid almost all missions, have all the levels on those, and the progress bar in the achivement is stuck at 0/70, even though I managed to unlock the level 60 achievement. It doesn't make any sense :D

Is there a way around this bug to still unlock the portrait/achievement?
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
March 21 2013 21:40 GMT
#15098
On March 21 2013 12:40 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 12:14 Belial88 wrote:
Playing HOTS campaign, should I play on brutal or hard?

I mean obviously im good at sc2, masters, but im afraid brutal will just be like retarded where you win by mostly abusing the game or being forced to do boring things like make only marines. I just want to enjoy the campaign.


Brutal HotS is MUCH easier than brutal WoL. You can get through basically all the missions with Kerrigan's abilities and a hydra/roach ball. Or Kerrigan and mass ling. Kerrigan's abilities are ridiculously strong, and the unit evolution paths are ridiculous as well. I cruised through brutal with maybe two minor exceptions, and I'm not good at all (I haven't played in over a year and was only platinum when I did...). I'm sure a masters player could steamroll every brutal mission with whatever unit composition they wanted. The only reason I can see playing on hard is if you want to go for all the mastery achievements on a single playthrough; there might not be enough time to do some of them on brutal.

I am currently 15 missions in and I am almost embarrassed to say that I didn't notice the evolve mission button for the first 10 missions -.- I was already cruising through brutal and that only made it easier /facepalm I have completed all objectives and everything on my first try... I really hope that they up the difficulty for LoV by like A LOT... I do have a couple missions left so maybe just maybe some of them are a little harder!
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Lennac
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada12 Posts
March 21 2013 23:53 GMT
#15099
Are there any tutorials, or does anyone have any helpful suggestions on how to get more proficient at using control groups and training your micro? My macro is far from perfect, but I find my micro causes more losses than my macro. I have trouble keeping track of my units, marching them around as an unorganized (and ineffective clump) rather than separating them accordingly to better pressure my opponent.

Any suggestions or tips are really appreciated.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 01:53:56
March 22 2013 01:53 GMT
#15100
On March 22 2013 08:53 Lennac wrote:
Are there any tutorials, or does anyone have any helpful suggestions on how to get more proficient at using control groups and training your micro? My macro is far from perfect, but I find my micro causes more losses than my macro. I have trouble keeping track of my units, marching them around as an unorganized (and ineffective clump) rather than separating them accordingly to better pressure my opponent.

Any suggestions or tips are really appreciated.


it depends on your hotkey set up, but for me I do 1, 2, 3 as army, 4 as Orbitals, 5 as rax, 6 as factory or starport depending on which is used more often. If I go mech I would have factory on 5 and starport on 6, with bio it's rax on 5 and starport on 6 and maybe factory on 9 or 0 because I have 9 and 0 bound to mouse buttons for easy access, I also bind 9 and 0 to engi bays or armories to always keep track of upgrades.

So for army set up, I try to do whole army on group 1, all siege tanks on 2 and spell casters on 3. The tanks on their own group allows me to leap frog tanks easier, because I can unsiege some tanks, and move command them while my sieged ones remain and I always have the hotkey to fall back to for easy access. Spell casters always need their own control group. If you are doing medivac harass I definitely recommend hotkeying each medivac you are harassing with to a key. Maybe if this is a key part of your play, you will bind 1 medivac to group 2 and another medivac to group 3 and all army on group 1 for ease.

As far as macro, constantly look at your resources versus your supply. Are your minerals too high? It's time to buy a command center or more rax. Is your gas too high? invest into upgrades or ravens or ghosts as they are high in gas and it's good to balance out your resources because then you will find your macro much more efficient.

I main zerg but I have hotkey setups for all races and I recommend either using one of the hotkey guides on TL or customizing your own. For instance, I don't have to reach my left hand further than the T, G, and B keys on my keyboard, everything is within that range and I mean EVERYTHING. I felt a major improvement in my APM after mastering my customized layout.

And on another note regarding HotS campaign. I hope to god they release some add-ons for campaign so I can play with my swarm on extra crazy difficult missions. I felt there was too much emphasis on kerrigan and not much on actual base building. I was also disappointed they didn't have a secondary queen to inject larva. How could they leave out inject larva? It's the most crucial part of zerg in multiplayer and they don't think that noobs might want to be aware of this ability and how important it is for zerg? Anyways, I would love to see some add-on missions where it's 2v1 terran+toss team up against you and they have boss mothership and boss battlecruiser and other missions where they stretch your swarm to the limit without kerrigan would be very cool.
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