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On August 25 2012 12:06 JesterEric wrote:
Don't know if this has been asked, but why don't more pro players make more immortals? (like 15-20 in the late game)

On August 25 2012 12:30 Raggamuffinoo wrote:


One obvious reason is that Immortals and Colossus share a similar cost in terms of minerals and gas per build time. The colossus is a much more cost efficient use of the robotics facility, they take up less space in a deathball due to the footprint allowing units underneath and they are one of few units able to engage against a superior concave.

On August 25 2012 13:24 JesterEric wrote:


I don't know, I'd hardly call the 150 resource difference "similar cost" and with the supply cost I could have 9 immortals but only 6 Colossus. They both do about the same damage with the only big difference that the immortal does 50 to armored, but with an extra 200 gas and 200 mins the colossus gets a +3 range which equals out the difference (depending on your situation.)

I understand the foot print note, however in my opinion it's heavily canceled out because the Colossus can be attacked by air to air weapons, which makes them susceptible to being sniped by good micro. However the ability to scale 1 level up or down is very nice depending on your situation, but I don't think the immortal is anything to scoff at considering it tends to not die easily.

Would it be fair to say the Colossus is only conditionally better? Where as the Immortal always has an important role in an army?

On August 25 2012 19:30 TbMMaize wrote:
anyone know some good pvz gate expand builds?

On August 25 2012 21:25 Monsyphon wrote:


Best one out there is FFE>4 gate robo

your comp is mainly snetries and immortals to defend vs roach/ling but if you scout mutas with obs you go twilight, extra gates, and make stuff to defend againstmutas

On August 26 2012 08:11 TbMMaize wrote:


Thats not an Gate Expand?!That´s an normal Forge Fast Expand.I want to play an GATE EXPAND

On August 26 2012 09:08 Mavvie wrote:

He thought you meant taking a third. There's a reason every pro Protoss player does FFE; it's the best opening. Period.
The only time a gateway expand is used is extreme metagaming, f.ex. Oz opens gate-nexus-gate-core for some powerful aggression, but that's gimmicky; if your opponent opens 14/14 you simply lose.

Gate expands don't work. They suck for pressure, suck for economy, and suck for tech. Aka they suck in every way possible, only getting a slight tech advantage over FFE

just open ffe ffs.

Then either do a 2base all in or 4gate robo -> third, doing what he said. No need to use caps and bad grammar.

On August 26 2012 22:00 worldpeace30 wrote:
how do I deselect a unit from my main ball of units? I remember it was something with shift...

On August 26 2012 22:02 Iyerbeth wrote:


Shift click on the unit to remove it from the selected unit. Shift and control click on a unit or it's portrait to remove all units of the same type from selection. Rebind the control group after if you want them permanently removed from the group.

On August 25 2012 19:30 TbMMaize wrote:
anyone know some good pvz gate expand builds?