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thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
July 03 2012 13:33 GMT
#13201
On July 03 2012 20:31 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 20:14 rd wrote:
On July 03 2012 16:27 dynwar7 wrote:
WHen I see pro terrans want to build 2x rax, they normally wait until 300 minerals, why? Doesnt have to be terran, can be gateways etc. Why not build it when you have 150? Why wait until 300?


I actually don't see pro terrans/protoss wait to build the second.

However, the second will start ever so slightly faster from the saved mining time. Plus the convenience of having them synced. Mostly just preference.


No, what I mean is this.

I want to build 2 barracks. I would normally build 1 as soon as I have 150. Then anotehr one when I have 150. But pros seem to wait until 300 to build both. Is it for the slight mining time? If I build as soon as I have 150, that particular SCV could instead be mining right?


I believe its just so their build is more fluent. It'd not about the 50 mins now, think about the 50 mins to start marine and 100 Fo depot to start depot that much sooner.


Toss does this sometimes with gas, just so it works out better. If you can get something faster, the question should be do I want to/need to.

P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
cyrexMF
Profile Joined May 2012
Latvia2 Posts
July 03 2012 13:59 GMT
#13202
do i need to play also 2v2,3v3,4v4 to rank up?
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
July 03 2012 14:03 GMT
#13203
On July 03 2012 22:59 cyrexMF wrote:
do i need to play also 2v2,3v3,4v4 to rank up?


No
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Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
July 03 2012 17:20 GMT
#13204
On July 03 2012 06:31 thurst0n wrote:
I'm not sure if this belongs in the strategy forum exactly. But I figured it was a simple question/answer so I'll start here.

Question 1: Is there such thing as a custom map that is a faster game speed than the actual game? I think it'd be interesting to try to perform macro builds at literally 2x the speed, or 4x or w.e. Is this possible? Easy?


Question 2: Is there a visual difference to a medivac, overlord, or warp prism, when it's loaded vs unloaded? Like there is for a bunker. Should there be?(i say yes)


I've been looking for the same thing. Keep an eye on my thread where I just asked this question.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=350057
Jpx
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal6 Posts
July 03 2012 19:40 GMT
#13205
As a new players what would be a good Terran opening build to practice mechanics untill im like Platinum or Diamond and can start exploring the game more in-depth ?
Viktorin
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland59 Posts
July 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#13206
On July 04 2012 04:40 Jpx wrote:
As a new players what would be a good Terran opening build to practice mechanics untill im like Platinum or Diamond and can start exploring the game more in-depth ?


You can 1 rax expand in every matchup.
Jpx
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal6 Posts
July 03 2012 20:50 GMT
#13207
I was thinking more about something similar to the 4 gate equivalent , but i guess i'll try that :p
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 20:55:51
July 03 2012 20:55 GMT
#13208
Hi Jpx, I don't know how new you mean, but someone called FilterSC on YouTube (I'm not affiliated) but out a really cool Terran Bronze to Masters set of video's using very basic builds. They're worth a look in my opinion, and they do show a build evolving through the different leagues.

+ Show Spoiler +
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2599 Posts
July 03 2012 21:20 GMT
#13209
On July 04 2012 05:50 Jpx wrote:
I was thinking more about something similar to the 4 gate equivalent , but i guess i'll try that :p

If you just want to cheese your way into Platinum/Diamond, I think an 11/11 proxy rax Marine/SCV all-in will probably get you there.

I don't say that in a disparaging way, by the way. I actually think new players should start with cheese to learn basic unit control and how to execute a very short BO crisply before transitioning into more complex play that looks for advantages in the mid or lategame.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Jpx
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal6 Posts
July 03 2012 22:34 GMT
#13210
Basically i been following SC2 since 2010 and i played for a couple of months after it came out ... i think i got to Gold or so league ... but then i stopped playing and have recently found some extra time again so i wanna start playing again .. but since i didnt rly play for that long i never rly got any mechanical skills , so its pretty much starting from scratch , with the difference that now i understand allot more of the game , since i never stopped watching Tournaments
Thx for the help btw , ill check out the youtube clips and i'll try out the 11/11 proxy rax all-in.
Czarkasm
Profile Joined July 2011
United States22 Posts
July 04 2012 00:42 GMT
#13211
On July 04 2012 04:40 Jpx wrote:
As a new players what would be a good Terran opening build to practice mechanics untill im like Platinum or Diamond and can start exploring the game more in-depth ?


I would like to know this, but for protoss, maybe 4 gate? Though I hear that now its easily defended. I could be wrong though, if not other choices against all matchups would be good.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
July 04 2012 01:37 GMT
#13212
On July 04 2012 07:34 Jpx wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Basically i been following SC2 since 2010 and i played for a couple of months after it came out ... i think i got to Gold or so league ... but then i stopped playing and have recently found some extra time again so i wanna start playing again .. but since i didnt rly play for that long i never rly got any mechanical skills , so its pretty much starting from scratch , with the difference that now i understand allot more of the game , since i never stopped watching Tournaments
Thx for the help btw , ill check out the youtube clips and i'll try out the 11/11 proxy rax all-in.



I have been in your shoes too! So from personal experience, I recommend to play no-stress custom macro games on BNET! Play on Daybreak LE which is a very popular custom map, and practice FFE/4gate/ anything! That is where I go to build my mechanical skill, and get a sense of the game again.
AnonymousEmu
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada70 Posts
July 04 2012 03:36 GMT
#13213
Is there any good protoss macro trainers?
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
July 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#13214
On July 04 2012 09:42 Czarkasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 04:40 Jpx wrote:
As a new players what would be a good Terran opening build to practice mechanics untill im like Platinum or Diamond and can start exploring the game more in-depth ?


I would like to know this, but for protoss, maybe 4 gate? Though I hear that now its easily defended. I could be wrong though, if not other choices against all matchups would be good.

Go for it! Diamond people still lose to it (not all, some). I usually go for the 4 gate if someone gas steals me and they're surprisingly bad at defending it.
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Viktorin
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland59 Posts
July 04 2012 10:33 GMT
#13215
On July 04 2012 09:42 Czarkasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 04:40 Jpx wrote:
As a new players what would be a good Terran opening build to practice mechanics untill im like Platinum or Diamond and can start exploring the game more in-depth ?


I would like to know this, but for protoss, maybe 4 gate? Though I hear that now its easily defended. I could be wrong though, if not other choices against all matchups would be good.


4 gate is still viable in pvp and pvt.
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
July 04 2012 14:11 GMT
#13216
On July 03 2012 21:32 Enemyy wrote:
Hey i am looking for a build order or/and guide for the opening for that @ 13min tvt game here done by dappolos opponent:

http://de.twitch.tv/dignitasapollo/b/323425397

Thanks alot! =)

Let's learn together!
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
July 04 2012 15:54 GMT
#13217
Hi guys

I have never asked for replays before, but let this be my first and only one.

I am searching of TvT replays where one player goes sky terran, but not later in the game. For example, I have seen boxer vs rain in MLG where both transitioned to sky...its popular, you can see on youtube lol.

So yeah, maybe the one where the player transitions to sky around early/mid game is fine.

Thank you, hope I can find some
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
July 04 2012 17:16 GMT
#13218
On July 04 2012 07:34 Jpx wrote:
Basically i been following SC2 since 2010 and i played for a couple of months after it came out ... i think i got to Gold or so league ... but then i stopped playing and have recently found some extra time again so i wanna start playing again .. but since i didnt rly play for that long i never rly got any mechanical skills , so its pretty much starting from scratch , with the difference that now i understand allot more of the game , since i never stopped watching Tournaments
Thx for the help btw , ill check out the youtube clips and i'll try out the 11/11 proxy rax all-in.


dapollo terran tutorial. I'm at work so can't link straight to the videos, but thats the google search for them.

The Zerg one's got me from Gold to Plat in about a week. It goes through some basic builds for each matchup concentrating mainly on macro and going against better players as the videos go though.
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
LeanMeanMacroMachine
Profile Joined May 2012
54 Posts
July 04 2012 18:56 GMT
#13219
Im a gold protoss but having kinda hard time to improve. What would be some good benchmarks to aim for (probes / overall supply)?
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
July 04 2012 19:11 GMT
#13220
On July 05 2012 03:56 LeanMeanMacroMachine wrote:
Im a gold protoss but having kinda hard time to improve. What would be some good benchmarks to aim for (probes / overall supply)?


Keep to the basics. Mostly macro and simply having more stuff than your opponent is the most important part for you to work on.

Constantly building workers, not getting supply blocked, and keeping your money low.
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
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