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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
September 19 2011 17:09 GMT
#7801
On September 20 2011 01:46 saaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 20:36 saaaa wrote:
What is the most powerful stim+Siegetank build order?




anyone?


Your question was ignored because it doesn't have an answer. Most "powerful" is completely subjective and is dependent on what timing you want to hit, what matchup, and how all-in you want your attack to be.
jdelator
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States89 Posts
September 19 2011 23:39 GMT
#7802
What is the best/good response if you went 15 hatch and your opponent has a baneling nest on 1 base?
ZikO
Profile Joined April 2006
United Kingdom27 Posts
September 20 2011 00:34 GMT
#7803
Are Immortals good against Marauders?
I found that playing Stalkers / Zealots against Marauders always fails and does not feel good ;p. I tried Immortals recently and I found they have, after upgrade, 65 DMG against Marauders who are Armored. Seem to be counter units, don't they?
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
September 20 2011 00:46 GMT
#7804
Since hellion is getting nerfed, TvT mech play will definitely be affected. Do you guys think it's a good idea to stick with an inferior and old gas first to fast banshee and blue flame drop build?, or Should I change up my build and playstyle in general? If I were to change my build, can you guys recommend a good marine tank build or at least tell me a player who consistently plays this style?
Thanks in advance
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
September 20 2011 01:58 GMT
#7805
I'm a Plat Protoss who's switching to Z so I can understand Zerg as a race better. What are the main/go-to openers for the matchups? (For example as Protoss my standards were PvZ - 3gate expand PvT 2gateRobo and PvP 4gate.)
Guess who`s special?!
kingcoyote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States546 Posts
September 20 2011 02:12 GMT
#7806
When fending off a marine/medivac drop behind their mineral lines, why do Zerg just let their zerglings get held in a bottleneck between minerals, rather than circling around to get more surface area? Is the tiny bit of extra APM just not worth it to save a handful of lings?

Pic and more details in case I didn't make myself clear:

+ Show Spoiler +


In this Sheth v KawaiiRice game, KawaiiRice kept doing small marine drops behind Sheth's minerals. He would drop 8 marines, pick off some drones, and then either pull back or let them die when Sheth's lings came in to clean it up. Each time, Sheth's lings would attack the marines from the other side of the minerals (near the hatch), which kept funneling them between minerals. It seems like it would be extremely simple to just select a handful of lings and order them to move behind the marines to the side.

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esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
September 20 2011 03:01 GMT
#7807
On September 20 2011 09:34 ZikO wrote:
Are Immortals good against Marauders?
I found that playing Stalkers / Zealots against Marauders always fails and does not feel good ;p. I tried Immortals recently and I found they have, after upgrade, 65 DMG against Marauders who are Armored. Seem to be counter units, don't they?



Immortals counter marauders almost directly, they literally melt them. Never build stalkers if he is going pure marauder it takes something like 30 shots for one marauder to kill a zealot. If you see marauder heavy you know to go zealot heavy preferably with charge and start pumping immortals especially with the recent buff.
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
September 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#7808
On September 20 2011 10:58 Le BucheRON wrote:
I'm a Plat Protoss who's switching to Z so I can understand Zerg as a race better. What are the main/go-to openers for the matchups? (For example as Protoss my standards were PvZ - 3gate expand PvT 2gateRobo and PvP 4gate.)

vT 15 hatch 14 pool
vZ 14 gas 14 pool
vP 14 gas 14 pool
The rest is style/preference/scouting

On September 20 2011 11:12 visual77 wrote:
When fending off a marine/medivac drop behind their mineral lines, why do Zerg just let their zerglings get held in a bottleneck between minerals, rather than circling around to get more surface area? Is the tiny bit of extra APM just not worth it to save a handful of lings?

Pic and more details in case I didn't make myself clear:

+ Show Spoiler +


In this Sheth v KawaiiRice game, KawaiiRice kept doing small marine drops behind Sheth's minerals. He would drop 8 marines, pick off some drones, and then either pull back or let them die when Sheth's lings came in to clean it up. Each time, Sheth's lings would attack the marines from the other side of the minerals (near the hatch), which kept funneling them between minerals. It seems like it would be extremely simple to just select a handful of lings and order them to move behind the marines to the side.

[image loading]

There is no reason not to go for the surround. Whenever the Terran does it to me I don't notice until it's not worth bothering and sometimes the AI screws around when I micro around the minerals.
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
TrueNorth16
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada3 Posts
September 20 2011 07:36 GMT
#7809
What's the best way to improve my PvT? I'm a top 8 Plat player but I have a horrible win-rate (like 15%) against Terran that's preventing me from moving up. Can anyone recommend any specific strategies or videos? I've read some PvT build orders and strategy discussion on here but I'm looking for a more well-rounded "how to play against Terran" guide. Day9 has a PvT video but it's over a year old, and I'm not sure how relevant it will be with all the patches.

Thanks!
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 08:54:54
September 20 2011 08:54 GMT
#7810
As the new patch is coming is there a guide for a good PvP gate-robo-gate-gate opener? I use gieko's defensive 3 gate but I expect it to become obsolete as 4gate was weakened.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
September 20 2011 09:06 GMT
#7811
On September 20 2011 16:36 TrueNorth16 wrote:
What's the best way to improve my PvT? I'm a top 8 Plat player but I have a horrible win-rate (like 15%) against Terran that's preventing me from moving up. Can anyone recommend any specific strategies or videos? I've read some PvT build orders and strategy discussion on here but I'm looking for a more well-rounded "how to play against Terran" guide. Day9 has a PvT video but it's over a year old, and I'm not sure how relevant it will be with all the patches.

Thanks!


sounds like the kind of thing where you should post a replay with an in-depth analysis from yourself and ask for help. consider making an [H] thread or stopping by the protoss one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251528
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Ganseng
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation473 Posts
September 20 2011 11:49 GMT
#7812
On September 09 2011 19:54 Ganseng wrote:
i have some odd questions, too lazy to test the game for the answers, maybe somebody knows...
-is it possible that PDD intercepts the bouncing attack from muta? (like the projectile was launched outside of the range, and then bounced into it?)
-does emp uncloak units affected by the mothership? for how long then? (fungal does reveal i assume)
-does emp do anything to changelings/hallucinations (i know it doesn't reveal creep tumors)
-if you lift a cloaked unit with phoenix, and then detection expires (e.g. observer is killed), will phoenix release the target (or will it hold it but it'll be untargetable? =))

so, i actually tested it, and if anybody is interested...
1)pdd can intercept bouncing attack from muta.
2)emp does uncloak units affected by mothership's cloaking field.
3)emp does nothing to changelings/hallucinations.
4)a target lifted by a phoenix will remain revealed for the duration of graviton beam no matter wether detection available or not.
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
September 20 2011 16:47 GMT
#7813
If I neural an enemy's Infestor, and then use it to cast infested terrans, are they my infested terrans or theirs?
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
September 20 2011 17:56 GMT
#7814
On September 21 2011 01:47 me_viet wrote:
If I neural an enemy's Infestor, and then use it to cast infested terrans, are they my infested terrans or theirs?


Yours.
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
September 20 2011 21:46 GMT
#7815
I am zerg and I keep loosing to mass viking. I get my 2 bases up and have lots of lings, then soo many vikings come killing everything. Has anyone faced this? I have lost to it twice today. I don't usually get roaches unless I see some hellion and either way all of my overlords die because 2 queens do not deal sufficient damage.
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 22:46:58
September 20 2011 22:31 GMT
#7816
On September 21 2011 06:46 shtdisturbance wrote:
I am zerg and I keep loosing to mass viking. I get my 2 bases up and have lots of lings, then soo many vikings come killing everything. Has anyone faced this? I have lost to it twice today. I don't usually get roaches unless I see some hellion and either way all of my overlords die because 2 queens do not deal sufficient damage.


Spore/roach? You should be able to scout for an early starport (probably reactored) with your first ovie sac. If you see more than 2 vikings that should be a big enough tip off. Most players get an early evo anyway. An early factory with not many units is also an indicator of some starport play, though you'll need additional scouting to be sure it's viking and not banshee


On September 20 2011 09:46 boon2537 wrote:
Since hellion is getting nerfed, TvT mech play will definitely be affected. Do you guys think it's a good idea to stick with an inferior and old gas first to fast banshee and blue flame drop build?, or Should I change up my build and playstyle in general? If I were to change my build, can you guys recommend a good marine tank build or at least tell me a player who consistently plays this style?
Thanks in advance



tbh I don't think gas first to fast banshee and blue flame drop build is really that viable; it's kind of like saying 4 gate into dt build. Quite gimmicky. That being said, 4 hellions are still 4 hellions. You should test play it a bit and find out if it's still working for you. If the hellions are too much, you can try a fast banshee and just expand after it. Common marine tanks builds have been around forever. Common ones are probably 2 tank expands and fast pushing, which aren't that complicated to execute, since you essentially open standard 1/1/1 getting 2nd gas at 20ish food (a little before factory is half done, basically as soon as you can after factory has started, and get seige and tanks as money allows for it
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 22:49:34
September 20 2011 22:48 GMT
#7817
Is there an exact timing for ov sac or is it just feel?
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
September 20 2011 22:59 GMT
#7818
On September 21 2011 07:48 shtdisturbance wrote:
Is there an exact timing for ov sac or is it just feel?

Your first one should be in place by 5:00, you should have a supply surplus when you send him in, and you should do it against Protoss at least at about 5:00 to 5:30. 6:00 is good but could come a little late in some situations, but just do it everytime with those 3 parameters above being met.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
September 20 2011 23:46 GMT
#7819
On September 21 2011 06:46 shtdisturbance wrote:
I am zerg and I keep loosing to mass viking. I get my 2 bases up and have lots of lings, then soo many vikings come killing everything. Has anyone faced this? I have lost to it twice today. I don't usually get roaches unless I see some hellion and either way all of my overlords die because 2 queens do not deal sufficient damage.


Use spore crawlers and roach/ling to defend until you can get mutalisks, then pump out as many mutas as possible. Vikings are terrible against Mutas because of the splash damage and landed vikings cant shoot air units.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Monsyphon
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada190 Posts
September 21 2011 00:56 GMT
#7820
When is the right time to make new production facilities once you made your new expo?
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