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underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
March 03 2011 13:54 GMT
#621
On March 03 2011 18:08 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 17:55 Killcycle wrote:
I play Terran, and all of our units are ranged; with the rows of units attacking sometimes I feel like the British / Colonials fighting each other with their nicely seated rows of gunmen. I've noticed if I forgo attacking immediately in the confrontation and move up slightly, it gives 2-3 more rows of units room to attack; of course, the same follows for other races' units.

So, without regard to unit placement or comp, is it ever a good idea to thrust your units in a bit, or should I just stick with trying for a good arc?


I can think of the following possibilities, at least that is when i step in:

1) If you get the feeling the opponent will try to flee, it is always nice to step in, especially with marauders and their slow.

2) If you want to kill something behind the enemy frontlines (again protossexample, select some marauders and try to go for the colossus)

3) kinda like 1) if you have 2-3 rows of units not firing, and your opponent has no 2nd or 3rd row of units, move in for the kill.



4) run up to tanks when you have enough marauders to bust the siege line
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
March 03 2011 20:22 GMT
#622
When fighting a MMM force, is it wise to target down the medivacs at the start of a fight?
Clamps
Profile Joined May 2010
66 Posts
March 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#623
What's the standard protoss counter to roach/hydra? I feel like those two units close all the gaps so very well. Tanking units up front, DPS in back, armored and light, ground attacks and anti-air, larger slow attacks and small fast attacks.

HeidstroM
Profile Joined December 2010
England33 Posts
March 03 2011 21:24 GMT
#624
On March 04 2011 06:11 Clamps wrote:
What's the standard protoss counter to roach/hydra? I feel like those two units close all the gaps so very well. Tanking units up front, DPS in back, armored and light, ground attacks and anti-air, larger slow attacks and small fast attacks.



Colossus are your friend. Use the colossus to melt away the hydras, and your gateway units should be able to deal with the roaches. Also, a lot of protoss are putting voids into their main army nowadays, along with 4-5 colossus. It is extremely effective, so if you are talking about late game i definitely reccomment voidray/colossus/stalker with however many sentries you feel are appropriate.
BossPlaya
Profile Joined September 2010
United States141 Posts
March 03 2011 22:16 GMT
#625
Are GSL or other tournament players allowed to switch races between games and/or rounds? Like if you want to play multiple races do you have to choose Random?
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Clamps
Profile Joined May 2010
66 Posts
March 04 2011 02:37 GMT
#626
On March 04 2011 07:16 BossPlaya wrote:
Are GSL or other tournament players allowed to switch races between games and/or rounds? Like if you want to play multiple races do you have to choose Random?


Seems to me that a tournament is supposed to test the player, not the race so you should.be able to play whatever race you want whenever you want. If there were such a rule I would say its a bad rule.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
March 04 2011 05:11 GMT
#627
As far as maximizing your points on the ladder, do you get screwed if you play without bonus pool? (I know, it's not strategy.)
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Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
March 04 2011 07:36 GMT
#628
As far as maximizing your points on the ladder, you don't really get 'screwed' because the bonus pool is just meant to make up for inactivity.

To the question about changing races in a tournament, I don't know what their specific rules are, but I could offer a good reason why it wouldn't be allowed. Tournaments generally have some sort of qualification that those entering are worthy, whether it's SC2 or whatever else. If you qualify as Terran, and you decided you wanted to play Zerg, which you suck at, it's not fair to the tournament as far as the quality of the product they are putting out.
dzieciol001
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland16 Posts
March 04 2011 11:28 GMT
#629
I'm Z, what should I do against T mech ?
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
March 04 2011 11:38 GMT
#630
In ZvT, if I see 2 fact with/ tech labs early, how will I know if it's early seige tanks or blue flame hellions?
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
March 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#631
On March 04 2011 20:28 dzieciol001 wrote:
I'm Z, what should I do against T mech ?


Too vague....but generally you want to abuse immobility by using Mutalisks to harass areas where there is little to no AA. Picking off tanks or tech labs when the Terran army is out of position works really well. Also upgraded roaches do extremely well against mech as long as you are decent at positioning.

On March 04 2011 20:38 jackdaleaper wrote:
In ZvT, if I see 2 fact with/ tech labs early, how will I know if it's early seige tanks or blue flame hellions?


You really can't tell unless you see it pop out. But generally, I would assume hellions because you cannot effectively afford double tank production + siege mode with the gas income you have in the early game. Doesn't mean tanks aren't possible but I'd guess hellions with a transition into tanks if there are tech labs on both factories.
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
March 04 2011 13:08 GMT
#632
Are GSL or other tournament players allowed to switch races between games and/or rounds? Like if you want to play multiple races do you have to choose Random?


it's tournament specific. i think most tournys let you change race 1 time and sometimes you have to notify your intent in advance

In ZvT, if I see 2 fact with/ tech labs early, how will I know if it's early seige tanks or blue flame hellions?


blue flame hellions only need 1 tech lab, so it would be tanks, if you see 1 tech and 1 reactor then it'd be hellions
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Raven123
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany8 Posts
March 04 2011 15:28 GMT
#633
I would really like to start playing Starcraft II on Battle.net but I would really have to read something about the basics, basic strategies and so on. Does anyone know a good beginner's guide for Protoss and/or Zerg ? Maybe even a Video Guide ?
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 15:35:05
March 04 2011 15:34 GMT
#634
On March 05 2011 00:28 Raven123 wrote:
I would really like to start playing Starcraft II on Battle.net but I would really have to read something about the basics, basic strategies and so on. Does anyone know a good beginner's guide for Protoss and/or Zerg ? Maybe even a Video Guide ?


Welcome to TeamLiquid!

My first suggestion is to check out this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192233

It's a collection of threads that we feel as a community is worthy of being recommended to other players. New players will benefit the most from this.

Next, check out Liquipedia, it's such an awesome SC2 reference thread.

Finally, watch Day9 @day9tv.blip.tv. He gives great, great commentaries and dailies that cover everything you could possibly think of.

Enjoy!
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enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
March 04 2011 18:53 GMT
#635
Is there any way to unveil hallucinated units without having detection?

So for example clicking on them and read important information from the info box, that differ from these from real units?

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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 02:23:28
March 05 2011 02:23 GMT
#636
Well, i feel like i want to actually get into this game and i want to know the standard BO(s) for Terran Matchups. I searched Standard but i really dont know where to start.. so i think it would be easier to straight up ask for the standard builds.
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Lup
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
March 05 2011 02:56 GMT
#637
Attacking with lings, whats the best way to get a surround? any tips would be great.

i'm used to playing terran and i tend to single out a unit and a move, when i do so with my lings they just run around trying to attack but can't, Should i a move the floor close to his units?
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
March 05 2011 06:24 GMT
#638
On March 05 2011 11:56 Lup wrote:
Attacking with lings, whats the best way to get a surround? any tips would be great.

i'm used to playing terran and i tend to single out a unit and a move, when i do so with my lings they just run around trying to attack but can't, Should i a move the floor close to his units?


Best way to surround is to move-command past the enemy army until your lings look like they have a decent surround, and then just attack-move That'll net you a solid surround!
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Lup
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
March 05 2011 16:03 GMT
#639
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2011 15:24 Synystyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 11:56 Lup wrote:
Attacking with lings, whats the best way to get a surround? any tips would be great.

i'm used to playing terran and i tend to single out a unit and a move, when i do so with my lings they just run around trying to attack but can't, Should i a move the floor close to his units?


Best way to surround is to move-command past the enemy army until your lings look like they have a decent surround, and then just attack-move That'll net you a solid surround!


Thanks alot, don't know why i didn't do that before. <3
vlnplyr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States76 Posts
March 05 2011 16:12 GMT
#640
On March 04 2011 05:22 PeggyHill wrote:
When fighting a MMM force, is it wise to target down the medivacs at the start of a fight?


I think the answer to this really depends on your army size, the opponent army size, the number of medivacs, and their health, but generally speaking, I don't believe so. Keep in mind that Medivacs only heal one unit at a time, so if it's a huge battle and only a few Medivacs, then the healing won't have as much of an effect as if, say, it's 4 Marauders and 4 Medivacs constantly healing each one.
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