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bankai
Profile Joined November 2010
362 Posts
May 12 2011 07:09 GMT
#2821
What is the best PvP build post-patch?? By best, I mean the most flexible opener and mid-game transition?? Is 2 gate robo more viable now since it should get sentries out early enough to hold off 4gates?? Then 2 gate robo also naturally translates to Colossus?
samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 12:36:23
May 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#2822
What is a solid opening in tvz and what should my game plan be? I'm really struggling with this matchup at the moment.
sleigh bells
Profile Joined April 2011
United States358 Posts
May 12 2011 08:53 GMT
#2823
is there a point in learning things besides FE builds? i'm t.
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
Roerik
Profile Joined August 2010
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 11:11:23
May 12 2011 11:10 GMT
#2824
On May 12 2011 17:53 sleigh bells wrote:
is there a point in learning things besides FE builds? i'm t.


If you feel like there's no reason for you to play anything but dragged out macro games or two base timing pushes, there might be little reason for you to learn anything but FE builds.

But if you feel like you want to mix up your play-style and add in some rushes, strong one base timing pushes, different harassment builds like hellions, banshees etc. You might want to add some of these other strategies to you arsenal, and therefore give you a few more options on how you would like to play each game.

In the end it comes down to what you enjoy when you play the game.
Public opinion has a way of changing.
Subllat
Profile Joined April 2011
34 Posts
May 12 2011 11:28 GMT
#2825
Whenever I have my Protoss ball and press my FF's I have to wait for my sentries to shuffle through my army to cast...what can I do to make that not happen
Roerik
Profile Joined August 2010
31 Posts
May 12 2011 11:53 GMT
#2826
On May 12 2011 20:28 Subllat wrote:
Whenever I have my Protoss ball and press my FF's I have to wait for my sentries to shuffle through my army to cast...what can I do to make that not happen


Bind them on a different hotkey and make sure they wont get suck behind.
Public opinion has a way of changing.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
May 12 2011 13:40 GMT
#2827
On May 12 2011 17:53 sleigh bells wrote:
is there a point in learning things besides FE builds? i'm t.


Can't speak for TvT or TvZ, but at least in TvP 1 base 1-1-1 all-in builds are still insanely strong. You should definitely have that in your arsenal especially at lower levels of play. Also 2 rax tech (i.e. fast medivac) is also a really strong build that's safe and can easily punish a greedy toss (eco-greedy or tech-greedy).
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
May 12 2011 13:46 GMT
#2828
On May 12 2011 16:09 bankai wrote:
What is the best PvP build post-patch?? By best, I mean the most flexible opener and mid-game transition?? Is 2 gate robo more viable now since it should get sentries out early enough to hold off 4gates?? Then 2 gate robo also naturally translates to Colossus?


No one knows yet :p But honestly PvP hasn't changed that much, 20 seconds is not a huge difference especially if you rework your chrono timings. Don't get too fancy early game, just do what you did pre-patch and you should be fine, although now you can be a little more greedy if you're planning to defend 4 gate.

Mid-game chargelot/archon is now an extremely powerful army comp (pre patch it was already pretty good).
terence158
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia64 Posts
May 12 2011 15:30 GMT
#2829
how do you put tab spacing into posts?
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
May 12 2011 15:38 GMT
#2830
On May 13 2011 00:30 terence158 wrote:
how do you put tab spacing into posts?


Whoa. I just tried to tab space as well and it didn't work. I tried a bunch of other combinations as well but it doesn't seem to work...idk o.O
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 16:08:31
May 12 2011 16:08 GMT
#2831
On May 13 2011 00:38 Synystyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 00:30 terence158 wrote:
how do you put tab spacing into posts?


Whoa. I just tried to tab space as well and it didn't work. I tried a bunch of other combinations as well but it doesn't seem to work...idk o.O


Use the {indent} tag (replace curly brackets with [])

For more info:
      http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
dc_na
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
May 12 2011 16:15 GMT
#2832
In ZvZ, is there any way to counter mass roach (40 or more) without using roaches yourself?

I have tried mutas but they don't kill them fast enough and 2-3 infestors can take them all down if they clump up. I assume broodlords would work but obviously you have to get through midgame first.
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
May 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#2833
When you click on a Thor it shows three boxes at the bottom. Two of them make sense(vehicle weapons and armor)... what is the third one?
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
May 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#2834
@Dc_Na

Infestors are really good. In early game if you have mass lings, just run around the roaches and counter attack. Never attack into them.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
May 12 2011 16:28 GMT
#2835
On May 12 2011 17:53 sleigh bells wrote:
is there a point in learning things besides FE builds? i'm t.


If you like to win, learning strong 1 base attacks will even help your FE builds.

Try the 2-rax, three marine, scv all-in on small maps. 11-13 rax, soon as second marine pops you go leaving other marines to follow. Make your CC an OC so you can drop mules to resupply.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
May 12 2011 16:30 GMT
#2836
On May 12 2011 16:52 samiamquinn wrote:
What is a solid opening in tvz and what should my game plan be? I'm really struggling with this matchup at the moment.


Have you tried two-rax pressure into expo?

Gas, marauder marine into expo?

Early tank with siege into expo?

Those should help.

-Bob
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
Stinson
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia19 Posts
May 12 2011 16:33 GMT
#2837
If two Helions shoot at a unit from opposite sides will they deal splash damage to each other?
It's getting too hot
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
May 12 2011 16:35 GMT
#2838
On May 13 2011 01:33 Stinson wrote:
If two Helions shoot at a unit from opposite sides will they deal splash damage to each other?


No. Nor do they deal damage to friendly units like marines, that they might shoot through.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
May 12 2011 16:39 GMT
#2839
On May 13 2011 01:20 bobwhiz wrote:
When you click on a Thor it shows three boxes at the bottom. Two of them make sense(vehicle weapons and armor)... what is the third one?


... just hover over them to find out? There's a separate box for ground and air attack.
Stinson
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia19 Posts
May 12 2011 16:39 GMT
#2840
On May 13 2011 01:35 bobwhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 01:33 Stinson wrote:
If two Helions shoot at a unit from opposite sides will they deal splash damage to each other?


No. Nor do they deal damage to friendly units like marines, that they might shoot through.



Thanks, that's what I thought but I was just watching a stream and thought I saw them damage each other whilst shooting through a marine.
It's getting too hot
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