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MellowsDad
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada34 Posts
May 09 2011 15:21 GMT
#2741
Bronze player here, playing as Terran. I have been having issues with Protoss as of late. One is a consistent issue that I have, when the Protoss goes straight Void Ray. I do a scan around 6:30 or so, and once I see it up go turrats and out come Vikings, but usually he is so far ahead in production that he just steam rolls me. Any suggestions?

The other one I just lost to was a 4 Gateway Dark Shrine, once again scanned at 6:30ish saw the shrine, popped out a turret at the ramp and started build on a starport, but he rushed me after the scan and it was gg.

My general build is 3 rax, first with reactor and next two with tech labs. I tried the 1/1/1 build but in bronze 90% of the games I get rushed and lose due to not having enough units.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
May 09 2011 15:33 GMT
#2742
On May 10 2011 00:21 MellowsDad wrote:
Bronze player here, playing as Terran. I have been having issues with Protoss as of late. One is a consistent issue that I have, when the Protoss goes straight Void Ray. I do a scan around 6:30 or so, and once I see it up go turrats and out come Vikings, but usually he is so far ahead in production that he just steam rolls me. Any suggestions?

The other one I just lost to was a 4 Gateway Dark Shrine, once again scanned at 6:30ish saw the shrine, popped out a turret at the ramp and started build on a starport, but he rushed me after the scan and it was gg.

My general build is 3 rax, first with reactor and next two with tech labs. I tried the 1/1/1 build but in bronze 90% of the games I get rushed and lose due to not having enough units.


Not a simple question, need to make a [H] post with attached replay. But since your bronze, the answer is probably just that you need to macro better (in fact you hint at this yourself - "he is so far ahead in production that he just steam rolls me." which shouldn't happen if you're 3 raxing)

And of course if you don't have turrets and/or a scan ready when a DT rush comes you're going to lose, there's nothing you can do about that even at a GM level (except scout better to see it coming).

Also 1-1-1 is viable regardless of league, you just need more bunkers.
MellowsDad
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada34 Posts
May 09 2011 15:37 GMT
#2743
Thank you for your reply Anihc, I will find the replay's and post accordingly.
Tzeratlan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada12 Posts
May 09 2011 15:59 GMT
#2744
On May 09 2011 12:27 NoMercyOracle wrote:
- What value should be placed in mech attack upgrades (and when) compared against mech armor upgrades? Specifically in a TvZ (or Grubby style TvP) using marines + all factory units, with a core of tanks, should i be prioritizing +2 and +3 armor before +1 attack. Seems to me that +1 damage to an already high number doesnt help alot at all.

According to this thread: Critical Upgrade Analysis, +mech attack is usualy a bad upgrade to prioritize against zerg (read the summary at the end to learn which are the best weapon and armor upgrades / those that affect the number of hits it takes to kill a specific unit.)
cosimorondo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States78 Posts
May 09 2011 17:41 GMT
#2745
How do you drop units from multiple overlords while they are moving? I know you can select a single overlord and left click the icons for the units inside and they will drop that way, but I've seen over and over players dropping units from all the overlords in a group and I haven't been successful in emulating the technique.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
May 09 2011 17:42 GMT
#2746
On May 10 2011 02:41 cosimorondo wrote:
How do you drop units from multiple overlords while they are moving? I know you can select a single overlord and left click the icons for the units inside and they will drop that way, but I've seen over and over players dropping units from all the overlords in a group and I haven't been successful in emulating the technique.


Comprissent
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 17:56:15
May 09 2011 17:55 GMT
#2747
edit* ninja'd
(i had the post page up too long )
He's French-Canadian, so he's gonna do fast expand into stupid zealot timing into something else gay
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44934 Posts
May 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#2748
If my friend and I are both on SC2 and I just finished a really great game that I want to show him, is there any way that I can open up the replay as a custom game and invite my friend, so that we can watch it together? (Like we could in SC1?)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
May 09 2011 20:40 GMT
#2749
On May 10 2011 04:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If my friend and I are both on SC2 and I just finished a really great game that I want to show him, is there any way that I can open up the replay as a custom game and invite my friend, so that we can watch it together? (Like we could in SC1?)

Nope, but Blizzard would like to add in client supported replay sharing in the future.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44934 Posts
May 09 2011 20:59 GMT
#2750
On May 10 2011 05:40 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 04:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If my friend and I are both on SC2 and I just finished a really great game that I want to show him, is there any way that I can open up the replay as a custom game and invite my friend, so that we can watch it together? (Like we could in SC1?)

Nope, but Blizzard would like to add in client supported replay sharing in the future.


Thanks I'll just stick to sending them files or uploading my replays on a sc2replay site and sending them the videos that way for now.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CardinalSC
Profile Joined January 2011
United States145 Posts
May 09 2011 21:16 GMT
#2751
Diamond Protoss player here looking to offrace as Terran. Was wondering what one build to learn in each matchup as safe and standard, such as how Protoss has 3 Gate Expand for T/Z and 3 Gate Robo for pretty much everything. Is there one Terran build that is pretty safe against everything?
Forestwind
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland7 Posts
May 09 2011 22:06 GMT
#2752
Let's say Player A is zerg. A uses mutalisks. I see no one drawing those mutalisks with low health from battle. Why not? You will save a great unit, unit that cost A LOT. All you get with keeping that Muta in the battle is a a shot or two, and then it dies away.

Of course this is dependant on what is the situation, but generally they could heal, and if enough queens are in play, mutas could be transfused.

Simply, why dont withdraw units with low health, as they will be gaining hp and can be transfused?
Do you hear it as well? The wind whispers.
kobey
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany1 Post
May 09 2011 23:26 GMT
#2753
Hey guys,

Is it possible to change the hotkey for spreading the creep tumor? Its on "c" but i want to have it on another key. In the hotkey settings i couldnt find an option to change it.

Do you know something to handle this?

Thanks.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 00:04:41
May 09 2011 23:48 GMT
#2754
On May 10 2011 07:06 Forestwind wrote:
Let's say Player A is zerg. A uses mutalisks. I see no one drawing those mutalisks with low health from battle. Why not? You will save a great unit, unit that cost A LOT. All you get with keeping that Muta in the battle is a a shot or two, and then it dies away.

Of course this is dependant on what is the situation, but generally they could heal, and if enough queens are in play, mutas could be transfused.

Simply, why dont withdraw units with low health, as they will be gaining hp and can be transfused?


Besides the case where you need to suicide your mutas to either kill off an important unit or tech or just to buy time, you always want to preserve them whenever possible. Note that this is true of any unit in your army.

The reason is more of a mechanical one. Mutas have low health so it is hard to pull back individual mutas out of harm's way. Furthermore, mutas typically have their own hotkey group so simply sending hurt mutas away won't work (although it is sufficient to force target switches onto other mutas which is frequently all you want). You would need to send a muta off, then re-bind the group minus that muta which is relatively APM intensive for questionable gain.

On May 10 2011 08:26 kobey wrote:
Hey guys,

Is it possible to change the hotkey for spreading the creep tumor? Its on "c" but i want to have it on another key. In the hotkey settings i couldnt find an option to change it.

Do you know something to handle this?

Thanks.


Before the latest patch, it was not possible to change the spawn creep tumor action for creep tumors due to a bug. However, it was fixed so you should simply be able to change the action in the usual way (hotkeys -> zerg -> structures -> creep tumor).
bankai
Profile Joined November 2010
362 Posts
May 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#2755
1) In PvZ macro-oriented games, I noticed that typically high level players go for the IST or ISS compositions but as the game builds up and zerg techs to ultras/broodlords, that Protoss players do not replenish sentry count.

This could be my mis-observation but, why do ppl do that?? I thought for zerg, since their numbers are so great in late game, that you NEED forcefields to restrict their movement otherwise the deathball gets surrounded too easily??

2) PvZ - what is the best counter to lings/infestors in mid game and late game??
badDogma
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 03:48:05
May 10 2011 03:27 GMT
#2756
Has any other protoss been driven to race-switching because of PvP? I'm thinking of switching to zerg and wondering if it's worth getting a new account to play zerg. Part of me wants to keep my P account because I put so much work into it already.

What's the worst thing a zerg has to deal with? What causes the most rage, is it mirror matchups or defending all-ins or something? Zerg just seems so awesome.
A genius cannot defeat someone who works hard. Someone who works hard cannot defeat someone who enjoys their work. -- Rain
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
May 10 2011 03:50 GMT
#2757
On May 10 2011 12:27 badDogma wrote:
Has any other protoss been driven to race-switching because of PvP? I'm thinking of switching to zerg and wondering if it's worth getting a new account to play zerg. Part of me wants to keep my P account because it took a lot of work getting to platinum.

What's the worst thing a zerg has to deal with? What causes the most rage, is it mirror matchups or defending all-ins or something? Zerg just seems so awesome.


Opinions vary of course, but the general consensus is that zerg is most frustrating in the early game due to the combination of

1) Lack of early-game scouting capabilities,
2) Need of scouting information (more so than other races) to inform larva usage, and
2) Power of all-ins/aggressive plays from opponents and lack of quick reactionary defense to deal with those plays

You can see the debate continue from Idra and day9's discussion on state of the game:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221235

Just keep in mind that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence... =)
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
May 10 2011 04:15 GMT
#2758
How do you stop a 2 rax all in as terran when the second rax is hidden and you're teching and doing a 1-1-1? Is it just a BO win?
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 10 2011 05:27 GMT
#2759
As protoss is it ever worth it to get +3 shields, it cost as much as a mothership and takes 220 ingame seconds. I believe its the most expensive and longest research time upgrade. As my games tend to go on past the 25 minute mark I find myself with the extra resources to get it.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 05:41:35
May 10 2011 05:30 GMT
#2760
I'm going to redact this and try the new thing I want to try. I'll be back if it doesn't work.
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