EPT[Q] ZVP how to "beat" stalker?
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Motat
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FearTHeFrO
United States204 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
I feel like roaches do okay against roaches; not great, but if you have them beaten on upgrades it can be okay. If you mix in hydras you can have a very cost effective mix that will beat them. Of course over-committing to hydras can leave you vulnerable to colossus which are often mixed in with stalkers. | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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Theston
Germany15 Posts
Ling/Roach or Ling/Hydra ist also fine. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
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Motat
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Philip2110
Scotland798 Posts
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Makeone
Sweden24 Posts
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eth3n
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freetgy
1720 Posts
you just have to make them deal their dps to them i.e. upgrades roaches are great Hydras+ Meatshield easily pure Speedlings vs. Pure Stalkers even Mutalisks are good thanks to bounce. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
Ling > Stalker Roach > Stalker Hydralisk > Stalker Ultralisk > Stalker Infestor > Stalker Infested Terran > Stalker (Yes, go cry) Mutalisk > Stalker (Okay, maybe pushing it but with sufficient micro Mutas seem to crush my stalkers) Broodlord > Stalker Take your pick. I'm no QQ'ing, though I might main Protoss, because while all of these beat Stalkers.... I still love my sex offending jacks of all trades. | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
roachs actually fare BETTER then stalkers. why? because with each attack upgrade the roach gains two attack. and the stalker only gains 1. and the stalker needs TWO different sets of upgrades for armour (shield and base armour) so late game roachs DO infact shit on stalkers. sure they may no beat them 1v1. but its so close its negliable. and then theres the fact the roach costs a fuckton less then stalker. just because stalkers do extra damage to armoured does not mean an instant. " OH NOES ROACH IS ARMOURZEZEZ CANT BUILZZZ THEMMZ" | ||
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DuneBug
United States668 Posts
But you probably don't want to invest that much in hydras cuz eventually toss'll get something to counter them or lose, probably templar. And it pays to not assume your opponent is stupid. roaches are cost effective but once protoss gets blink you'll be in trouble since he'll be blinking his injured stalkers back, and he'll have the advantage until you can outmass or get burrow & speed. | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
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Erucious
Norway393 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:13 TyrantPotato wrote: first understand that as the game goes on and upgrades start rising. roachs actually fare BETTER then stalkers. why? because with each attack upgrade the roach gains two attack. and the stalker only gains 1. and the stalker needs TWO different sets of upgrades for armour (shield and base armour) so late game roachs DO infact shit on stalkers. sure they may no beat them 1v1. but its so close its negliable. and then theres the fact the roach costs a fuckton less then stalker. just because stalkers do extra damage to armoured does not mean an instant. " OH NOES ROACH IS ARMOURZEZEZ CANT BUILZZZ THEMMZ" is this upgrade thing true? Dont the stalker fire 2 shots? Doesnt the stalker get +2 to each attack upgrade? | ||
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Eminent Rising
United States174 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:17 Erucious wrote: is this upgrade thing true? Dont the stalker fire 2 shots? Doesnt the stalker get +2 to each attack upgrade? no stalkers fire 1 shot. it might be 2 visually but it counts as 1 hit. | ||
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5ahj4g
72 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:05 ShatterZer0 wrote: Name one zerg unit that can attack ground that DOESN'T destroy stalkers en masse. Every single one but drones and queens. (Queens is debatable with correct micro xP) Ling > Stalker Roach > Stalker Hydralisk > Stalker Ultralisk > Stalker Infestor > Stalker Infested Terran > Stalker (Yes, go cry) Mutalisk > Stalker (Okay, maybe pushing it but with sufficient micro Mutas seem to crush my stalkers) Broodlord > Stalker Take your pick. I'm no QQ'ing, though I might main Protoss, because while all of these beat Stalkers.... I still love my sex offending jacks of all trades. sad but true. stalkers alone are remarkably cost inefficient against almost everything. just make more of whatever you have upgrades for | ||
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chipmunkrage
Canada51 Posts
To answer the OP if the guy has mass stalkers as others have said, hydra/roach/ling works well. Speedling by itself works well if you can outnumber and surround the stalkers. | ||
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