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SpiderWaffle
United States125 Posts
The only thing I've found that works well is if you can emp their shields before they get in range of your tanks. This seems to be what the Pros do too. Is this the only way to counter immortals? I haven't tried BCs but I think they would be too ineffective against guardian shield stalker, void ray. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
devastating vs P | ||
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Rea
Germany88 Posts
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Mizzet
Singapore47 Posts
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Latham
9568 Posts
You can try using marines throughout the whole match, but make sure he doesn't have HTs and snipe colossi before engaging him with your imba range 9 vikings. Spread your tanks well and make sure to engage him with meatshields for the tanks. Hellions maras anything will do fine as long as your tanks will have the time to shoot. If you have the gas, get banshees too. Even though they're expensive and get sniped easily their DPS is great and they are a very good unit well worth their price overall. | ||
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shawabawa
United Kingdom417 Posts
Marines own immortals, and EMP. edit: I'm also wondering how you're playing people who get sentry/stalker/immortal/high templar. They must have like 10k minerals left over. | ||
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Cheezy
Sweden112 Posts
Marines and EMP. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
Marines are quite good vs immos, marauders hold their own but zealot+immo will help the immo out loads to make the AI kill the zealots first while with +1 dmg upgrade and stim, immos 2 shot marauders. TL:DR if the P is immo heavy, be marine heavy or make sure to have enough EMP to go around. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
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baytripper
United States170 Posts
On June 16 2010 20:13 Rea wrote: stimmed marauder, marines, ghost, banshee, bc, helions all kill immortals costeffective hellions are HORRIBLE against immortals. no preigniter bonus and minimal splash since they're so large. even after EMP you need four of them to take out one immortal. four stimmed marines is half the cost and half the supply and does the job just as well. the rest i agree with, but it's worth noting that marines do MUCH better than marauders against them (200/0/4 to kill an EMPed immortal with marines vs 300/75/6 with marauders). if they go immortal before colossus or charge, you can really punish them with marines. | ||
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baytripper
United States170 Posts
On June 16 2010 20:34 Zarahtra wrote: Well I mean there's no ultimate solution, all have some weaknesses. Even EMP, if you do it before the immos get in range, the P can just back his units off and wait until the shields have regened maybe if you're meching, but with stim and concussive shell, there's no way a slow-ass immortal is getting away with his life | ||
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Krowser
Canada788 Posts
On June 16 2010 20:26 shawabawa wrote: You tried to counter immortals with thors?!? Immortals hard counter thors into the ground. Immortals also counter marauders. Marines own immortals, and EMP. edit: I'm also wondering how you're playing people who get sentry/stalker/immortal/high templar. They must have like 10k minerals left over. Maybe he was using the 250mm cannon. | ||
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soverRR
Sweden348 Posts
Although in these situations I do miss lockdown. ^_^ | ||
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Salty
United States90 Posts
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EnderCN
United States499 Posts
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baytripper
United States170 Posts
they have higher single-target DPS than siege tanks, they're one of the most damaging units in the game. four banshees can kill an immortal in <4 seconds, i dunno how fast you were expecting. i mean, you need the ravens/vikings/cloak/etc to protect them, but if they stay alive they kill things obscenely fast. i'm not sure i would make them specifically to counter immortals (since honestly i've never had issue dealing with immortals), but they're really useful in the matchup anyway if you want to work 5 or 6 of them into a build. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On June 16 2010 20:59 baytripper wrote: maybe if you're meching, but with stim and concussive shell, there's no way a slow-ass immortal is getting away with his life Zealots and/or FF(if you didn't catch all the sentries in EMP) make that seemingly easy. Sure a loss, but getting those shields back up on your units, esp. the immos is by far more important. | ||
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baytripper
United States170 Posts
On June 16 2010 23:01 Zarahtra wrote: Zealots and/or FF(if you didn't catch all the sentries in EMP) make that seemingly easy. Sure a loss, but getting those shields back up on your units, esp. the immos is by far more important. eh, if there are already ghosts and large marine numbers out, your immortal was a big fat waste of money and keeping him alive another 60 seconds isn't going to help you much if anything keeping the zealots alive would be my priority, two zealots can kill more marines than an immortal. yeah, they benefit slightly less from having shields, but they're still the better unit in that situation. that's true that force field does let you retreat in a few situations where you'd normally be dead, but it's not something you can rely on, especially in the stage of the game where you would actually have immortals v terran. | ||
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Cibron
Sweden253 Posts
EMP for additional fun! | ||
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Krowser
Canada788 Posts
EMP. It removes 100 shield, Immortals have 100 shield. So it turns off their Hardened shields in 1 hit. After that, it's just a big stalker that can't shoot in the air. | ||
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